The Home Improvements Thread (2)

xrapidx

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 16, 2007
Messages
40,311
Does anyone know where I can get a quote on replacing kitchen cupboard doors and drawers? The actual cabinet structures are fine - for what they are.

I'm just tired of the shitty push to open crap the builder installed - they're constantly miss-aligned, breaking, etc. So want to replace them with decent soft-close stuff.
 

ElixirCoder

Expert Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2016
Messages
1,230
Does anyone know where I can get a quote on replacing kitchen cupboard doors and drawers? The actual cabinet structures are fine - for what they are.

I'm just tired of the shitty push to open crap the builder installed - they're constantly miss-aligned, breaking, etc. So want to replace them with decent soft-close stuff.
DIY?

Otherwise any decent cabinet maker should be able to give you a quote.
 

xrapidx

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 16, 2007
Messages
40,311
DIY?

Otherwise any decent cabinet maker should be able to give you a quote.

WIll need to get someone in - I could DIY it - but, these guys really made a mess installing the current cupboards, so would prefer someone to come in and install.

Was kinda hoping I could find somewhere online for quotes.
 

WAslayer

Executive Member
Joined
May 13, 2011
Messages
8,934
WIll need to get someone in - I could DIY it - but, these guys really made a mess installing the current cupboards, so would prefer someone to come in and install.

Was kinda hoping I could find somewhere online for quotes.
superiorcc.co.za have an online form you can fill in with dimensions, edge type, door style etc, to get a quote..

Honestly though, I went through the exercise of getting quotes from about 5 or 6 kitchen cupboard places and their costs were always double or more than double the cost for D.I.Y..

The existing cupboard doors can't be that bad, that it would be a horrible mission to D.I.Y..?
 

xrapidx

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 16, 2007
Messages
40,311
superiorcc.co.za have an online form you can fill in with dimensions, edge type, door style etc, to get a quote..

Honestly though, I went through the exercise of getting quotes from about 5 or 6 kitchen cupboard places and their costs were always double or more than double the cost for D.I.Y..

The existing cupboard doors can't be that bad, that it would be a horrible mission to D.I.Y..?

Most of the issues are around alignment - and the cheap fittings used. Some of the sliders were only attached with one screw - in some of the cupboards, they guy probably tried three or four times to get the alignment right, and still got it wrong.

Then - I'm sure its the nature of these push to open sliders, but they don't align properly when the cupboards close, so about 80% of time time the drawers are 5-8mmm out of alignment with the neighbouring cupboard - it drives my OCD insane.

If you look at the 4 drawers - you can see the second one isn't spaced correctly both horizintally, and vertically - how you get that wrong is beyond me, its literlly out on the x,y and z axis.

Ideally I want to replace them with soft-close (with handles, or the notch at the top) - so they rest against the cupboard frame.
628bac92177632fb9b3de82050ecdf4d.jpg
6b7da0d336555e404b2984713ab527e2.jpg
ef47e3b73b8a0a5865bc96492735ebe5.jpg
0da7f2953b807c65b584e3db72192e57.jpg


9cdad845bd177ed76017641d25e296ef.jpg

9b9d1d378f20ae78921cdcc923a7f0ea.jpg
 
Last edited:

WAslayer

Executive Member
Joined
May 13, 2011
Messages
8,934
Will update this post in a few minutes from my pc
628bac92177632fb9b3de82050ecdf4d.jpg
6b7da0d336555e404b2984713ab527e2.jpg
ef47e3b73b8a0a5865bc96492735ebe5.jpg
0da7f2953b807c65b584e3db72192e57.jpg


9cdad845bd177ed76017641d25e296ef.jpg
You will have to make sure that the cupboard carcasses themselves are level, flat and square.. if not, replacing doors and drawer fronts are just going to cost you money for nothing..

If the carcasses are all good, you will be able to D.I.Y no problem..
 

RandomGeek

Expert Member
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
2,326
Anybody know if Builders Warehouse is open again, for "non-essential" items? No-one is answering any phones (nothing new that one)
 

RandomGeek

Expert Member
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
2,326
Most of the issues are around alignment - and the cheap fittings used. Some of the sliders were only attached with one screw - in some of the cupboards, they guy probably tried three or four times to get the alignment right, and still got it wrong.

Then - I'm sure its the nature of these push to open sliders, but they don't align properly when the cupboards close, so about 80% of time time the drawers are 5-8mmm out of alignment with the neighbouring cupboard - it drives my OCD insane.

If you look at the 4 drawers - you can see the second one isn't spaced correctly both horizintally, and vertically - how you get that wrong is beyond me, its literlly out on the x,y and z axis.

Ideally I want to replace them with soft-close (with handles, or the notch at the top) - so they rest against the cupboard frame.
yeah sloppy workmanship sorry to say
 

martin

Expert Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2003
Messages
3,651
WIll need to get someone in - I could DIY it - but, these guys really made a mess installing the current cupboards, so would prefer someone to come in and install.

Was kinda hoping I could find somewhere online for quotes.

Really sorry to hear that. This is going to sound like a sales pitch and I apologise in advance.

We recently redid our kitchen (end of January) and made use of KTB Cupboards. I read some reviews on them online and a lot of people commented on how reasonable their quotes were compared to other places. We were on a very tight budget and we have a pretty big kitchen space so our options were limited. My expectations when we ultimately decided to make use of them were pretty low because:
  1. Their quotes were indeed very competitive compared to every other Kitchen places we approached so there had to be a catch in my mind.
  2. Our kitchen walls and floor are HORRIBLY skew. Enough to make a veteran contractor weep. Now add to this a sloped ceiling and you're in for a really fun time.
To their credit, they didn't go a cent over the quoted price and they gave us some great advice on how to save some costs by altering our kitchen design. We were over the moon with the end result considering how extremely shitty the shell was. Sure, there are some gaps here and there on counter-tops but they're tinier than I expected and there was honestly nothing further they could do to improve on that (I have an idea on how to hide these with aluminum strips).

From past comments, I do realise that you're based in Cape Town but they may have some installers down there.
 

xrapidx

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 16, 2007
Messages
40,311
Really sorry to hear that. This is going to sound like a sales pitch and I apologise in advance.

We recently redid our kitchen (end of January) and made use of KTB Cupboards. I read some reviews on them online and a lot of people commented on how reasonable their quotes were compared to other places. We were on a very tight budget and we have a pretty big kitchen space so our options were limited. My expectations when we ultimately decided to make use of them were pretty low because:
  1. Their quotes were indeed very competitive compared to every other Kitchen places we approached so there had to be a catch in my mind.
  2. Our kitchen walls and floor are HORRIBLY skew. Enough to make a veteran contractor weep. Now add to this a sloped ceiling and you're in for a really fun time.
To their credit, they didn't go a cent over the quoted price and they gave us some great advice on how to save some costs by altering our kitchen design. We were over the moon with the end result considering how extremely shitty the shell was. Sure, there are some gaps here and there on counter-tops but they're tinier than I expected and there was honestly nothing further they could do to improve on that (I have an idea on how to hide these with aluminum strips).

From past comments, I do realise that you're based in Cape Town but they may have some installers down there.

Thanks - I'll look into them.

I'm also considering pulling everything and redoing the kitchen with freestanding units myself.
 

martin

Expert Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2003
Messages
3,651
I'm also considering pulling everything and redoing the kitchen with freestanding units myself.

That may ultimately be your cheapest option and you can then ensure that they look and function exactly the way you want them too.
 

WAslayer

Executive Member
Joined
May 13, 2011
Messages
8,934
Thanks - I'll look into them.

I'm also considering pulling everything and redoing the kitchen with freestanding units myself.
You are spoilt for choice in terms of freestanding carcasses.. there are a number of companies in Cape Town that sell them flat packed.. really quick and easy to build cupboards this way..

The downsides though, are the costs and that they come in fixed dimensions.. you are likely to find that you end up with an odd gap in a few places where a fixed dimension cupboard won't fit and you have to get creative in how to fill it..
 

rodga

Honorary Master
Joined
May 9, 2007
Messages
11,054
Most of the issues are around alignment - and the cheap fittings used. Some of the sliders were only attached with one screw - in some of the cupboards, they guy probably tried three or four times to get the alignment right, and still got it wrong.

Then - I'm sure its the nature of these push to open sliders, but they don't align properly when the cupboards close, so about 80% of time time the drawers are 5-8mmm out of alignment with the neighbouring cupboard - it drives my OCD insane.

If you look at the 4 drawers - you can see the second one isn't spaced correctly both horizintally, and vertically - how you get that wrong is beyond me, its literlly out on the x,y and z axis.

Ideally I want to replace them with soft-close (with handles, or the notch at the top) - so they rest against the cupboard frame.
628bac92177632fb9b3de82050ecdf4d.jpg
6b7da0d336555e404b2984713ab527e2.jpg
ef47e3b73b8a0a5865bc96492735ebe5.jpg
0da7f2953b807c65b584e3db72192e57.jpg


9cdad845bd177ed76017641d25e296ef.jpg

9b9d1d378f20ae78921cdcc923a7f0ea.jpg
Look at the blum fittings

Maybe you can buy one or two and give the diy route a go, they are expensive though, but probably cheaper than redoing the whole kitchen.
 
Top