The Islamic State Thread

No, but they do fund rebel groups who fight ISIS in Syria.

And also fund ISIS itself. Because guns going to moderate Islamists are going to ISIS.

Iraqi War 3?

Will US put boots on the ground? Let's hope this is voted away by the public the way intervention in Syria to help create a Caliphate there was quashed by the American and British people.
 
Would not surprise me is the Obam bam administration is funding the other side too. Remember its all about the oil and Obama has been shown to be a complete liar.

As with the tragedy in Syria, these Libyan and Iraqi messes are there because of the regional neighbors interfering as well as the super powers. A non-interventionist foreign policy would be best, hopefully someone like Rand Paul gets his way.
 
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Saw this on reddit.

4500+ Iraqi soldiers captured by ISIS.

[video=youtube;e0sa9ro4mZs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0sa9ro4mZs[/video]
 
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Seems I spoke too late.

Extremists in Iraq now control the country's rivers

18:26 12 June 2014 by Debora MacKenzie
Iraq has blazed its way back onto the world's front pages in the past 48 hours, with the seemingly sudden capture of the cities of Mosul and Tikrit by an extremist group. The group seems to be targeting the region's rivers: its main geostrategic vulnerability. It now controls the upper reaches of both the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) considers itself the true government of a region stretching from Israel to Iraq. It has been among the rebels fighting Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, and controls the territory in eastern Syria around Deir al-Zour.

Despite the apparent suddenness, ISIS's assault on Iraq has been brewing for six months. Last January, ISIS started fighting its way from Syria down the Euphrates river into Iraq. In May it captured the town of Fallujah, the scene of bloody fighting during the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq. This week, ISIS captured Iraq's second-largest city Mosul, on the Tigris river, then advanced down the Tigris to the town of Tikrit, and beyond it to the Shiite holy town of Samarra. Both Samarra and Fallujah are within striking distance of the capital Baghdad.

It is not clear at the time of writing whether ISIS will launch a military attack on Baghdad, or even if it could take the heavily armed city in a pitched battle.

Choke points

But it may not need to. Iraq is ancient Mesopotamia, the once-fertile floodplain of the Tigris and Euphrates that cradled the first human civilisation. The rivers remain crucial to the farming on which most Iraqis depend, according to a report by the International Centre for Agricultural Research on the Dry Areas, which was once based in Aleppo, Syria, but has now decamped to Amman in Jordan to avoid fighting.

ISIS now controls several major dams on the rivers, for instance at Haditha and Samarra. It also holds one 30 kilometres north of Mosul that was built on fragile rock and poses a risk of collapse. It holds at least 8 billion cubic metres of water. In 2003, there were fears Iraqi troops might destroy the dam to wipe out invading forces. US military engineers calculated that the resulting wave would obliterate Mosul and even hit Baghdad.

ISIS has already used water as a weapon, in a smaller way. In late April ISIS stopped flow through the relatively small Nuaimiyah dam on the Euphrates in Fallujah, reportedly with the aim of depriving Baghdad and southern Iraq of water. It could also have been to block military approaches to the town.

Instead, the river backed up and poured into an irrigation canal, flooding the town of Abu Ghraib and dozens of surrounding villages over 200 square kilometres. Five people died, and 20,000 to 40,000 families fled to Baghdad. The water may have permanently damaged soils, and deprived farmers downstream of vital irrigation water at a critical time of year. Southern Iraq is mainly populated by Shiite Muslims, to whom ISIS and its Sunni allies are opposed.

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The US never learns, stop arming them and let them sort out each other. :mad:

US are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Doesn't make a difference what their response is. There is always some ass who will b###tch and whine about what America should or shouldn't do. Of course none of these idiots ask why their own countries are too useless to help in any way.
 
And also fund ISIS itself. Because guns going to moderate Islamists are going to ISIS.

Guns for rebels groups who are specifically fighting ISIS, also means ISIS is being funded? Can you at least elaborate or back up your claim?
 

That seem to be in line with their agenda

There is at least no mystery about what Baghdadi wants. He believes that the world's Muslims should live under one Islamic state ruled by sharia law, the first step of which is establishing a caliphate spanning Syria and Iraq.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/12/baghdadi-abu-bakr-iraq-isis-mosul-jihad

The capture of Mosul by Isis means a radical change in the political geography of Iraq and Syria. Moreover, the impact of this event will soon be felt across the Middle East as governments take on board the fact that a Sunni proto-caliphate is spreading across northern Iraq and Syria.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...n-the-birth-of-a-sunni-caliphate-9530600.html

This is a Sunni v Shia sectarian civil war, that is likely going to see a lot more spillover.
 
Guns for rebels groups who are specifically fighting ISIS, also means ISIS is being funded? Can you at least elaborate or back up your claim?

Yes yes because guns ALWAYS ONLY go to groups which are fighting this particular rebel group. Yes guns never ever go to the guys they're fighting. Right.

I have a bridge to sell you.

You are incredibly gullible and naive.
 
TAKE UP ARMS AGAINST IRAQ 'TERRORISTS': TOP SHIITE CLERIC

Top Shiite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani called Friday for Iraqis to take up arms against "terrorists" who have overrun swathes of the country in a major offensive.

"Citizens who are able to bear arms and fight terrorists, defending their country and their people and their holy places, should volunteer and join the security forces to achieve this holy purpose," his representative announced on his behalf during Friday prayers in the city of Karbala.

"He who sacrifices for the cause of defending his country and his family and his honour will be a martyr," he added.

The elderly Sistani, who rarely appears in public, is highly influential in the Shiite Muslim world and is adored by millions.

An offensive launched by the Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and its allies late Monday has overrun all of one province and chunks of three more.

Security forces have so far failed to halt the drive, with some fleeing after throwing away their uniforms and abandoning their positions.

Shiite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has already announced that the government will arm and equip citizens who volunteer to fight.


Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 13 Jun 2014 13:10
 
Yes yes because guns ALWAYS ONLY go to groups which are fighting this particular rebel group. Yes guns never ever go to the guys they're fighting. Right.

I have a bridge to sell you.

You are incredibly gullible and naive.

No no space this is what you said ...
And also fund ISIS itself.

Now guns finding their way into ISIS hands doesnt equal funding from the US, its the cost of war. Allied weapons used to fall into the hands of Axis forces all the time, i suppose the Allies funded Nazi Germany too huh?
 
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