BlaQ_PhoeniX
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Just re-installed Win7 on my 2nd partition and I had to download drivers for my Atheros AR9285 wifi card. Win7 install disk is ~3GB, Ubuntu ~700MB yet all my hardware works out of the box.
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Just re-installed Win7 on my 2nd partition and I had to download drivers for my Atheros AR9285 wifi card. Win7 install disk is ~3GB, Ubuntu ~700MB yet all my hardware works out of the box.
Joe Average
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Thanks, that makes it a bit clearer. Could it be that Linux is only popular because it is basically "free" ? Microsoft IIS (especially version 7.5) is a brilliant web hosting product, but as part of MS Server, not exactly cheap. How much of the decision to host something is influenced by the cost saving over the quality of the software ? How does Linux compete with MS when it comes to development software, i.e. C#, VB and database software, i.e. SQL Server and Oracle ? I have worked nearly 20 years in the financial industry, has never seen a Linux server or ever needed one - and I don't think it is going to change anytime soon. One would also be foolish to ignore Windows Phone 7 and the rumours of a Win 8 for Tablets.
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Elimentals
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20 years in finance and never seen Linux..... Then I guess you never used SAP in any of that 20 years.
Banks like support. Thats why most of them use Unix or MS servers. They need a 3rd party to fall back on when something goes wrong. But even so, the banks I've worked for had Linux servers. Not a lot, though. BUT even if they use a vendor backed Unix OS, like Solaris, the software that runs on there is usually open source. It's not uncommon to see Apache and Tomcat running on Financial systems.
As for your question about software development: Java is still HUGE. Yes, .NET is catching up, but most of the big financial systems are still Java. And most Java software is free and open source.
As for price, yes I think it's a factor. Linux has allowed Google to roll out over a million servers without paying anyone anything.
dj_jyno
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Look, Linux is good, but so is Windows. There are basically only three reasons why I still use XP - battery life, games and EndNote. There is a slight decrease in battery life with the Linux versions I've tested, but they're constantly improving.
DirectX is one of the major reasons why there are so little games available for Linux that the moment. Developers did just not see the need to create a version for less than 5% of the gaming market. Big thumbs up to companies like id Software who used OpenGL from the start and made it much easier to port their titles. As for EndNote (reference and citation manager) - tried using it in Wine to no avail.
Once those issues have been sorted out I will permanently give Windows the boot. Slowly moving over to Linux.
DirectX is one of the major reasons why there are so little games available for Linux that the moment. Developers did just not see the need to create a version for less than 5% of the gaming market. Big thumbs up to companies like id Software who used OpenGL from the start and made it much easier to port their titles. As for EndNote (reference and citation manager) - tried using it in Wine to no avail.
Once those issues have been sorted out I will permanently give Windows the boot. Slowly moving over to Linux.
Lol just a real pity it looks sh*t compared to Windows 7. IE 9 mobile outperforms Android and Iphone. Windows 8 on tablets. IE 10 with better touch support. The writer of the article is probably Osama Bin Laden. Windows won ages ago. Cloud computing will work in first world countries but not here where we are stuck with Hellkom.
Joe Average
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SAP is used mostly in ERP systems in the mining and other production industries to run SAP with, if I am correct ?
Yes, 20 years in finance, never needed Linux for anything, we don't use ERP systems, only number crunching, databases (SQL or Oracle) and Web Hosting. I must add, I never worked for a bank, thank G. Even the JSE is now moving their BDA system from IBM Mainframe to Windows Server with SQL DB.
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Installed openSuse on wife's laptop 3 years ago with no virus checker no stupid CD keys etc. etc. and its still running unattended. All the computer in my home runs Linux and all connected 24/7 on the net. Others used to bring in there WINputers for repairs but I've been showing them the door lately or get Linux installed.
Bobbin
Honorary Master
Get the same games on Linux and I am there within a heartbeat. Nothing else really holding me back.
Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
I run Linux on my wifes work PC (own software I developed) and just deployed a digital sign I slapped together with UBUNTU and QT for her business - for me it was not the cost of the OS (thats negligible), it was the reliability.
Other Pineapple Smurf
Honorary Master
My approach is use the best OS. Win7 came in at a good price and if its the added price I need to pay to play my games, then so what. Gamers quickly spend R5K on a graphics card that will be outdated within a year yet they complain about an OS costing less than R2K, thats the cost of 5 latest game releases.
Please don't troll. People don't take you seriously when you troll.
Lets compare: L for Linux, W for Windows. Who wins
Supercomputers: L
Smart devices: L
Web: L
Community: L
Freeware: L
Games: W
Using a weighted average we can cleary see that Windows is the dominate OS in my life.
Supercomputers: L
Smart devices: L
Web: L
Community: L
Freeware: L
Games: W
Using a weighted average we can cleary see that Windows is the dominate OS in my life.
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Well, if that was true, I would be a linux fanboy just like you by now
It's not something I sucked out of my thumb, ignorance is bliss. How many operating systems have you actually used on a regular basis?
All windows since the beginning and Linux since the latest "competing complete" distros.
SomeoneEls
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Correction the JSE (like the London stock exchange did) is moving to the millennium exchange system which is based around linux and also uses Solaris and Oracle databases. The JSE currently runs on Windows servers and SQL...
SAP is used by pretty much all the big auditing firms nowadays as well, Deloitte's definitely use it, they moved over at the end of 2009.
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The problem with Linux is simple, it's no fun.
Linux = work, work, work.
Linux = work, work, work.
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