The Middle East Conflict Thread

marine1 said:
No it is completely different and if you have ever travelled there you would see that. Go and visit Israel and see for yourself.
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Could you elaborate? How does the 'apartheid' of Israel differ? One was based on skin colour, the other is religious belief?
 
Fudzy said:
Could you elaborate? How does the 'apartheid' of Israel differ? One was based on skin colour, the other is religious belief?
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People of different religions live peacefully in Israel - they do however want to separate themselves from the terrorists that aim to destroy them.
 
I made mention quoting an article in a newspaper that had quotes from our wonderful Cosatu. What is your point?
So you refer me to a site that say Israel has an Apartheid policy and I must accept it?
Nice anti Semitic site that. ;) ( and please, I know what Semites are)
 
Israel helped create Hamas to stir up things with fatah (amongst other things) why do the media ignore this fact?

Israel has been nothing but trouble since it's inception, the Jews are victims too because those responsible for the state are religious nutters who want to make a state based on a book without much evidence to back it up telling them it is/was their land.
 
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marine1 said:
I made mention quoting an article in a newspaper that had quotes from our wonderful Cosatu. What is your point?
So you refer me to a site that say Israel has an Apartheid policy and I must accept it?
Nice anti Semitic site that. ;) ( and please, I know what Semites are)
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Glad you do, do you know what the difference between anti-semitic and anti-zionism is?
 
an·ti-Sem·i·tism (ān'tē-sěm'ĭ-tĭz'əm, ān'tī-)
n.

1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2. Discrimination against Jews.

Ever noticed that when you bring up issues against Israel Zionists LOVE to claim its Anti-Semitic, bring up the holocaust etc?
 
Aqua_lung said:
Israel helped create Hamas to stir up things with fatah (amongst other things) why do the media ignore this fact?
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So they can destroy them then !
Israel has been nothing but trouble since it's inception, the Jews are victims too because those responsible for the state are religious nutters who want to make a state based on a book without much evidence to back it up telling them it is/was their land.
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Is this book the Koran, the Bible or the Torah ?
I think Israel is surrounded by religious nutters.

The Hamas charter calls for the extermination of Jews as well as the destruction of Israel as an Islamic necessity.
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pcgig said:
200 people deserved to die?its sad that one person got killed in Israel and a few got injured.But the response from Israel is really highly disproportionate, And there are people on mybb that think the 200 that got killed and 700 injured deserved it?Wow,You people are hypocrates.200 lives are not equal to 1.
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The Israeli death toll is not a reflection of how hard those Hamas terrorists have been trying.

Are you suggesting that Israel should have waited until Hamas were more successful in killing Israelis before retaliating?
 
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The point is 200 people got killed for that?for Hamas' actions.Its just plain collectivet punishment.no matter which faith you're from .
 
Frankie said:
So they can destroy them then!
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Destroy something that serves it's purpose?

All I'm saying is that Israel helped create Hamas when they had the PLO to negotiate with, looks to me that some were never interested in negotiating with the Palestinians.

Is this book the Koran, the Bible or the Torah ?
I think Israel is surrounded by religious nutters.
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All three are basically the same(Christians live in Gaza too btw) but I was referring to the belief that the land Israel occupies was once a Jewish nation when there is no hard evidence to back that up.
 
pcgig said:
The point is 200 people got killed for that?for Hamas' actions.Its just plain collectivet punishment.no matter which faith you're from .
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So how do you suggest Israel puts a stop to Hamas' terrorist activities?

"Collective punishment" - yes they should collect all those terrorists and punish them.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Destroy something that serves it's purpose?

All I'm saying is that Israel helped create Hamas when they had the PLO to negotiate with, looks to me that some were never interested in negotiating with the Palestinians.



All three are basically the same(Christians live in Gaza too btw) but I was referring to the belief that the land Israel occupies was once a Jewish nation when there is no hard evidence to back that up.
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And you think that justifies Hamas calling for the destruction of Israel and all Jews?

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Hamas militants have suspended a TV program that featured a Mickey Mouse lookalike urging Palestinian children to fight Israel and work for global Islamic domination, the Palestinian information minister said Wednesday.
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Aqua_lung said:
I said Israel created/supported Hamas so ask Israel that question. I don't defend Hamas or any religious party.
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What's more important is what's Hamas up to now!

I think that there's some within that organisation that would like peace, but they have no control of the extremists amongst them that persist with terrorist activities.
 
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