The Middle East Conflict Thread

My opinion?... it's old.

Wow, what a stunning piece of analysis. So you can basically say nothing to counter the content of the video... just... "it's old"?

In other words, you accept that the video depicts the indoctrination of Children by terrorists... and that the video is a year old?

thanks for backing us up! ;)
 
Wow, what a stunning piece of analysis. So you can basically say nothing to counter the content of the video... just... "it's old"?

In other words, you accept that the video depicts the indoctrination of Children by terrorists... and that the video is a year old?

thanks for backing us up! ;)

Yup, but these same guys will claim Palestine's right to the land from occupation over a 1000 years ago... but that's not old.
 
But they are doing this, right ?

Anyone who is willing to kill innocents in his quest for his own agenda

no, a sovereign state has a right of military action. The people in the target zone were given fair warning to move away. Anyone left behind is now there voluntarily or under their parents authority. Your argument is invalid.
 
Yup, but these same guys will claim Palestine's right to the land from occupation over a 1000 years ago... but that's not old.

what? WTH does that have to do with anything? which same guys?

.. and there was a kingdom of Jewish people in that region over 2000 years ago

but I still dont' get your point? :confused:
 
Unfortunately that Resolution is well known to have been a problem due to the ambiguity. The drafters even noted that Israel need not withdraw from any territory as the West Bank is not Jordanian territory and the Gaza strip is not Egyptian territory. Even the Palestinians refused to accept Resolution 242.

Ergo, Israel is most definitely not in breach of this Resolution. Any others?

To be honest, I am quite disappointed at your descent into technicalities and semantics - it smacks of typical Israeli propaganda, and I thought we had moved on to serious discussion, especially in the light of the massive humanitarian crisis in the area. It is quite clear that a withdrawal to their pre-6-day-war borders is a pre-requisite for any real move towards peace ( as I and many others believe is stated in that resolution ), so if you are prepared to debate further on the possibility of peace you need to accept that. Otherwise all you are doing is supporting Israel's warmongering, like others here. Which is fine, but pointless, once the stance is recognised.
 
no, I didn't, but you seem to have lost all credibility.
Just jump down someones throat and say he's lost all credibility. Is that how you treat friends?. I post two links to two blogs and justified it with a credible source. You however are stuck with your dogmatic attitude, and fail to see anything with an open mind, were having a debate, not a war, its people like you that incite hatred for others. I doubt that I'll manage to change your opinion, so I might as well leave this thread for you to steer.
 
You do realise you'll also be accused of flogging a dead horse now :D

some dead horses (in rwenzori, aqua-Lung and aperio's case) need to be flogged until they are just skeletons... they keep bringing up the same old tired discounted arguments. :rolleyes:
 
no, a sovereign state has a right of military action. The people in the target zone were given fair warning to move away. Anyone left behind is now there voluntarily or under their parents authority. Your argument is invalid.

I asked earlier - where are the palestinians expected to go to ? The sick, the frail, the young. How should they get to their destination ?

It's probably safer to stay indoors when missiles, phosphorus bombs are falling in the streets.
 
As I understand it, the hamas rockets have killed in the region of 20 israelis in the last 8 years.

More people die from slipping in the bath in a year.

Is this really what the onslaught is all about ?
 
Just jump down someones throat and say he's lost all credibility. Is that how you treat friends?. I post two links to two blogs and justified it with a credible source. You however are stuck with your dogmatic attitude, and fail to see anything with an open mind, were having a debate, not a war, its people like you that incite hatred for others. I doubt that I'll manage to change your opinion, so I might as well leave this thread for you to steer.

hey man, if you want to stay and debate, then feel free... but if you can't take the heat, I'm sorry. Maybe it is better if you take a break. I'm quite willing to talk to you here about the topic at hand. No malicious intention intended. This thread is not for the weak-minded... but we still post in other threads on the board. If you look carefully you will see that many of us talk to each other quite happily in other threads about other topics. I have many enemies in this thread... but that same person may be on my side about another technical issue in another thread. Seriously. Don't let it get to you. We like to drive our points home here... and we are very serious about our sources being credible. Don't feel bad that I picked on yours. I get the same treatment from others here. I will be very disappointed if you let this come between us. Think about it.
 
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