The Middle East Conflict Thread

And gone where ? Children, old people, sick people - where were they supposed to go ?

According to MFG (aka Marine1, Frankie and Garyvdh) they deserve to die! ... :sick:

Daveza i cant believe such people still exist in this world and am curious to know just how old these people are ... they actually say killing innocents is justified ... hahaha ...


thats why im curious to know whats their solution to end the conflict ...
 
1) For the militant and radical Muslim factions to renounce Terror tactics and attacks on innocent people (suicide bombings, rocket attacks, etc.)
2) For them to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a nation.
3) For them to elect a democratic, credible and capable government
4) For them to concentrate on building infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank instead of using all their funds to buy weapons.
5) For the other Arab States to stop sponsoring Hamas and other Radical organizations.
6) For them to go to the table with Israel and thrash this thing out with meaningful and sincere dialogue.
7) For the Imams and Muslim clerics to stop preaching Jihad against the West.
8) For Israel to respond in kind and withdraw from the occupied areas and help to re-settle the Palestinian people who want to get on with their lives.

Simple. :)

Amen
 
And gone where ? Children, old people, sick people - where were they supposed to go ?

Anywhere but next to Saleem the rocket launcher. Come on... they have 360 square miles to move around in. It is not that hard.

Me... I would go pitch a tent in the Negev.... or even better... find a nice Kibbutz to hand out in for a few weeks. I am sure they would not turn anyone away.
 
Anywhere but next to Saleem the rocket launcher. Come on... they have 360 square miles to move around in. It is not that hard.

Me... I would go pitch a tent in the Negev.... or even better... find a nice Kibbutz to hand out in for a few weeks. I am sure they would not turn anyone away.

Garyvdh how old are you?
 
1) For the militant and radical Muslim factions to renounce Terror tactics and attacks on innocent people (suicide bombings, rocket attacks, etc.)
2) For them to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a nation.
3) For them to elect a democratic, credible and capable government
4) For them to concentrate on building infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank instead of using all their funds to buy weapons.
5) For the other Arab States to stop sponsoring Hamas and other Radical organizations.
6) For them to go to the table with Israel and thrash this thing out with meaningful and sincere dialogue.
7) For the Imams and Muslim clerics to stop preaching Jihad against the West.
8) For Israel to respond in kind and withdraw from the occupied areas and help to re-settle the Palestinian people who want to get on with their lives.

Simple. :)

7 things for the palestinians and 1 for Israel ? Hardly seems balanced.

How about removing the Berlin walls ? How about free access to wherever people want to go. How about the US giving as much money to the Palestinians as given to Israel ?

Where exactly is it confirmed that palestinians call for Israel to cease to exist? The palestinians live in Israel!

You can't dictate how a democracy is created ?! I don't think anything but majority vote is true democracy but very few countries use this as a yardstick.

Israel refuses to talk to the democratically elected hamas so who must go to the table with Israel ?

Is Israel prepared to discuss Jerusalem ?
 
1) For the militant and radical Muslim factions to renounce Terror tactics and attacks on innocent people (suicide bombings, rocket attacks, etc.)
2) For them to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a nation.
3) For them to elect a democratic, credible and capable government
4) For them to concentrate on building infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank instead of using all their funds to buy weapons.
5) For the other Arab States to stop sponsoring Hamas and other Radical organizations.
6) For them to go to the table with Israel and thrash this thing out with meaningful and sincere dialogue.
7) For the Imams and Muslim clerics to stop preaching Jihad against the West.
8) For Israel to respond in kind and withdraw from the occupied areas and help to re-settle the Palestinian people who want to get on with their lives.

Simple. :)

But this aint a muslim vs Jew thing hey ... see you mentioned Muslim all the way ... you do know they are Christian people as well suffering in Palestine ...

why are you making it a Muslim/Jew thing?

Garyvdh how old are you? (asked you now twice)
 
let me ask this to Marine1, Frankie and Garyvdh ... what in your view is the solution to end the violence in the middle east? and without more killing? ... im really curious to know your peoples views ...

I actually have the solution. Give all sides nukes.. let the problem resolve itself and then just make sure the oil we pump from there has thick lead piping.

Until Islam finds its Mandela and its Ghandi... that area of the world is ganna be a mess.
 
7 things for the palestinians and 1 for Israel ? Hardly seems balanced.

How about removing the Berlin walls ? How about free access to wherever people want to go. How about the US giving as much money to the Palestinians as given to Israel ?

Where exactly is it confirmed that palestinians call for Israel to cease to exist? The palestinians live in Israel!

You can't dictate how a democracy is created ?! I don't think anything but majority vote is true democracy but very few countries use this as a yardstick.

Israel refuses to talk to the democratically elected hamas so who must go to the table with Israel ?

Is Israel prepared to discuss Jerusalem ?

You asked me what I thought it would take. Those are my answers.
 
But this aint a muslim vs Jew thing hey ... see you mentioned Muslim all the way ... you do know they are Christian people as well suffering in Palestine ...

why are you making it a Muslim/Jew thing?

Garyvdh how old are you? (asked you now twice)

But the Palestinian Christians are not the ones firing the rockets, are they now?

and I never made it a "Muslim/Jew" thing.... I actually said that the problem is radical Islam. There is a difference you know.

I would make the same call to the radical Christians in Indonesia to knock it off with their terror attacks and bombings.

I already answered your question about my age above... but in case you couldn't work it out (not everybody has four hands)... I am 40. What does that have to do with it? :confused:
 
I still say we should let them kill each other out. Theyre dead bent on it anyway. Smart people should leave the area.. those that wanna kill each other for Gods land should be left to sort it out.

They just musnt come whine about it when it happens. Like Somalia.. some cultures still have to go a long way before they wake up.

The world has more important issues than Middle East BS.
 
Adamr asked...

but it needs a balanced solution where both parties end up with less than they want.

When the Radical Jihadists give up their Terror tactics then it will be "balanced" and dialogue can begin.
 
7 things for the palestinians and 1 for Israel ? Hardly seems balanced.

How about removing the Berlin walls ? How about free access to wherever people want to go. How about the US giving as much money to the Palestinians as given to Israel ?

Where exactly is it confirmed that palestinians call for Israel to cease to exist? The palestinians live in Israel!

You can't dictate how a democracy is created ?! I don't think anything but majority vote is true democracy but very few countries use this as a yardstick.

Israel refuses to talk to the democratically elected hamas so who must go to the table with Israel ?

Is Israel prepared to discuss Jerusalem ?
The wall is a result of Palestinian attacks. They are using 1000's of rockets because their other suicide attack method is not effective anymore.
1 UP for the WALL.:cool:

The Palestinians are getting money, and were getting a lot from the EU. The EU discovered this wasn't going to the people and that has nearly dried up. Why are they spending what little they have on rockets and Kalashnikovs?? Answer me that. ....

The Hamas government was elected in a democratic way, but that's where it ended. It's now a paramilitary/terrorist group bent on warring with Israel and everyone who lives there. An Israeli was killed today by rocket. RIP.

It isn't as if the Palestinians are stopping, so let round two continue until one or the other decides they've had enough.
 
and I never made it a "Muslim/Jew" thing.... I actually said that the problem is radical Islam. There is a difference you know.

no i dont ... define radical Islam ... please ... you use words without understanding ... :)

Cause you contradict yourself in one sentence ... amazing ...

and daveza's reply to it being unbalanced i agree why don't you counter argue that ... why is your solution just to aid one side, why not a balanced solution with both parties in mind ...
 
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