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[killerbyte]

It would be nice, if I could get a similar setup going to the UK ...

But probably going to have to setup a VPS to keep me happy.

oh you want to break out here?

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

oh you want to break out here?

Yeah, need to break out in the UK, for UK TV services, iPlayer, ITVX, ALL4, MY5, STV and a recently added U-TV.

 

[LandyMan]

75Gb of test data later, I got it to this:
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Using these on my 500/500 line:
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So ran some tests with my son over the weekend.
Historically, when he downloads and I am playing PUBG on the PS, the ping remained the same, but packet loss (up and down) jumps between 10% to 25%.
After the changes, there is in increase in ping, from around 170ms to 210ms-ish, but no packet loss.

 

[PhireSide]

So ran some tests with my son over the weekend.
Historically, when he downloads and I am playing PUBG on the PS, the ping remained the same, but packet loss (up and down) jumps between 10% to 25%.
After the changes, there is in increase in ping, from around 170ms to 210ms-ish, but no packet loss.

Get him to run some more tests while you play.

It's a win-win situation. He gets to download, you get to play PUBG and optimise your network

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Get him to run some more tests while you play.

It's a win-win situation. He gets to download, you get to play PUBG and optimise your network

Must get my rear end into gear and do something similar for my network on my AX2

 

[LandyMan]

Get him to run some more tests while you play.

It's a win-win situation. He gets to download, you get to play PUBG and optimise your network

He is back at varsity, so not at home
I am happy with the ping increase rather than packet loss. In a BR with already higher than your opponents' ping, packet loss on top of that literally kills you

 

[PhireSide]

For sure, but if you could keep ping more or less the same, that would be really ideal.

I absolutely LOVE the mangle feature on the Mikrotiks, but it does tend to hammer the CPU a bit

I apply packet marking and then use those to prioritise my traffic into eight queues, which is working out really well. No complaints in the household yet.

 

[PaulGherkin]

Mikrotik's implementation just doesn't seem to play ball.

Yeah it's a PITA and then it suddenly works. Also firmware updates tend to break it often.

 

[killerbyte]

For sure, but if you could keep ping more or less the same, that would be really ideal.

I absolutely LOVE the mangle feature on the Mikrotiks, but it does tend to hammer the CPU a bit

I apply packet marking and then use those to prioritise my traffic into eight queues, which is working out really well. No complaints in the household yet.

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I both respect this and cringe at it.
I am not sure why you are marking the packets of so many individual clients, but I can respect the efforts taken here.
You appear to be a man who has never lost a 10mm socket in his life.

 

[PhireSide]

I both respect this and cringe at it.
I am not sure why you are marking the packets of so many individual clients, but I can respect the efforts taken here.
You appear to be a man who has never lost a 10mm socket in his life.

This is what happens when you have a kid that won't sleep and then proceeds to cause you to also not be able to fall back asleep. 3-4AM is peak network optimisation time for me

My network is basically static and not much changes. I found that vendors don't bother marking their packets with DSCP properly, so I just tagged my most frequent clients (assigned them all static IP's) and the rest is picked up by the 'scavenger' queue that assigns everything else whatever else is left. I just hid the actual packet mark column as it had some personal info

 

[LandyMan]

For sure, but if you could keep ping more or less the same, that would be really ideal.

I absolutely LOVE the mangle feature on the Mikrotiks, but it does tend to hammer the CPU a bit

I apply packet marking and then use those to prioritise my traffic into eight queues, which is working out really well. No complaints in the household yet.

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Yep, that is the dream for sure ... but I don't know where to from here, to get the ping similar. Cause the bloatware test shows minimal impact on ping, but it appears international takes a bigger hit

 

[killerbyte]

This is what happens when you have a kid that won't sleep and then proceeds to cause you to also not be able to fall back asleep. 3-4AM is peak network optimisation time for me

My network is basically static and not much changes. I found that vendors don't bother marking their packets with DSCP properly, so I just tagged my most frequent clients (assigned them all static IP's) and the rest is picked up by the 'scavenger' queue that assigns everything else whatever else is left. I just hid the actual packet mark column as it had some personal info

LOL, I don't think I have ever heard someone say that a packet mark contains personal info...

 

[PhireSide]

LOL, I don't think I have ever say that a packet mark contains personal info...

Haha! Nah, nothing sinister (or kinky lol), I just categorise some packets according to the device, and some of them are named with me or my wife's names in there so I don't get confused.

 

[killerbyte]

Haha! Nah, nothing sinister (or kinky lol), I just categorise some packets according to the device, and some of them are named with me or my wife's names in there so I don't get confused.

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WiFi connected sex toys... we need to prioritise those packets for sure!

 

[PhireSide]

WiFi connected sex toys... we need to prioritise those packets for sure!

Putting the DP in UDP

 

[killerbyte]

Putting the DP in UDP

Well if you don't mangle those packets she will mangle your manhood.
If you don't mark those packets then she will mark your pecker.
If you don't do that prerouting then she will do the pegging.

 

[Mzezman]

Well if you don't mangle those packets she will mangle your manhood.
If you don't mark those packets then she will mark your pecker.
If you don't do that prerouting then she will do the pegging.

Its never nice seeing the processor pegged

 

[PhireSide]

Yep, that is the dream for sure ... but I don't know where to from here, to get the ping similar. Cause the bloatware test shows minimal impact on ping, but it appears international takes a bigger hit

I think you might need to play around with maybe placing your PS in your queue tree as a top priority device, and set the 'limit at' (MT speak for guaranteed bandwidth) at maybe 7500k or 10m and see if that improves things.

Otherwise, assign a static IP to your son's downloading device and then using queues, you can give him a 'lower' (higher, in this case) prio which should also help. You might need to also play around with different queue types. Unfortunately there is no one size fits all, but figuring it out is half the fun.

 

[PhireSide]

This is what my queue setup looks like:



1_frogfoot is the parent queue with default settings
udp is my DNS and icmp traffic for Adguard Home and Smokeping
fnb is my work-related stuff
tv is my Nova box and the Hisense TV's IP addresses
phireside and phiresidewife is our devices - phones, laptops, and kindles
tinyplex is my two wired machines, a Lenovo Tiny and a Dell Optiplex (see how clever I was with the naming? Huh?)
iot is a separate vlan for the iot goodies. Light switches, dimmers, smart bulbs, etc.
scavenger is everything else that does not fit into the above categories.

I use Mangle rules to mark packets from the respective endpoint IP's and so far it works pretty well. But I am always tweaking and changing stuff so in a week from now it will likely differ again . I've experimented with different upload and download limits, burst settings etc. but 55M seems to work best on my 60/60 Vrotvoet FTTH link.

 

[quovadis]

This is what my queue setup looks like

Seems like overkill but cool anyhow.