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[ChrisJ]

Last weekends fun run supporting a friend smashing 13 peaks

 

[now05ster]

Last weekends fun run supporting a friend smashing 13 peaks

I would die.

 

[Scary_Turtle]

Saucony shoes on https://www.onedayonly.co.za/ for really good prices if anyone is interested.

 

[karnuffel]

So Im trying to get myself ready for a 21 (which one I dont know) and I decided to treat myself to a new watch.

The Garmin Forerunner 935 however tells me that my runs are “unproductive”... WTF I was pretty chuffed with my 9KM in 55 Min. I googled a bit but cant figure out what “unproductive” actually means

 

[now05ster]

So Im trying to get myself ready for a 21 (which one I dont know) and I decided to treat myself to a new watch.

The Garmin Forerunner 935 however tells me that my runs are “unproductive”... WTF I was pretty chuffed with my 9KM in 55 Min. I googled a bit but cant figure out what “unproductive” actually means

Running Science | Garmin Malaysia

By monitoring key aspects of your running and fitness progress, you get a better look at your current performance level and what you need to do to keep up the good work or continue improving. Select Garmin devices collect data while you work out in order to bring you these running metrics and...

www.garmin.com.my

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Allegedly your fitness is decreasing.

 

[karnuffel]

Running Science | Garmin Malaysia

By monitoring key aspects of your running and fitness progress, you get a better look at your current performance level and what you need to do to keep up the good work or continue improving. Select Garmin devices collect data while you work out in order to bring you these running metrics and...

www.garmin.com.my

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Allegedly your fitness is decreasing.

Yeah I saw that page, but it does not make sense. My speed is improving and my distances have been increasing, but most of my runs are deemed unproductive. Anyway guess it does not really matter.

 

[Jehosefat]

Yeah I saw that page, but it does not make sense. My speed is improving and my distances have been increasing, but most of my runs are deemed unproductive. Anyway guess it does not really matter.

"Unproductive" means that your VO2Max estimate is decreasing while your training load is staying the same.

The VO2Max estimate is based on your heart rate vs your pace (for running, it's HR vs power for cycling).

By the sounds of things you are running more and faster but your pace vs heart rate is not improving (or actually getting worse). Short term this is definitely possible.

Honestly I ignore the Training Status stuff. It can be influenced by so many things (like a lack of sleep) that I don't really find it useful.

 

[Scary_Turtle]

Yeah I saw that page, but it does not make sense. My speed is improving and my distances have been increasing, but most of my runs are deemed unproductive. Anyway guess it does not really matter.

I was getting unproductive when I was following my clubs running program. As soon as I changed to a Garmin program I was always optimal but then you are doing hill repeats/super sets/long runs/recovery runs/goal pace repeats etc.

I think Garmin wants you to follow their program and want you to have your heart rates in different zones.

Surprisingly these actually made me much quicker I can steadily run at 5min per km where before this it was 5:30-5:45, the different runs are fun (other then 12kms on hill day haha) and I didn't feel as drained doing the same run all the time. I did the 10km under 55mins Garmin coach and finished the 3 month program this last weekend in 49:37.

Side note: if you are going to sign up for one enjoy the first week or two because after that its ramps up very quickly and sometimes is hard to keep up with the training.

 

[wise_guy]

What free android GPS app can I set a distance and then it'll alert me when I reach that distance so I know when to turn around?

I plan my runs with this so always end up doing perfect distance and ending where I want.
Same ol out and back gets a bit boring so I mix it up.

Just Draw It! - Route planner - Apps on Google Play

Route planner and distance finder at the tip of your fingers. Literally.

play.google.com

 

[InvisibleJim]

I think Garmin wants you to follow their program and want you to have your heart rates in different zones.

Surprisingly these actually made me much quicker.....

Of course (as I'm sure you are aware,) this isn't a coincidence. Intensity of cardio exercise is prescribed as a percentage of maximum heart rate.

Hanging out at a comfortable endurance pace all the time, you are always using your aerobic energy system and slow twitch muscle fibers (which are of course important for long distances and endurance.) Interval and sprint training at high intensity for short periods will recruit anaerobic energy systems and fast twitch muscle fibers.

As well as training these aspects of your fitness, this type of training will tend to improve aerobic capacity (VO2 Max) as well as raise the anaerobic threshold (the intensity at which you transition from the aerobic to anaerobic energy systems) and these factors will tend to help you run faster for longer and improve your general fitness. Similar principal to HIIT training.

So pushing yourself hard for short periods should be part of an effective running program to a greater or lesser degree. Slowing down and running at a lower heart rate in your fat burning zone is also beneficial for endurance training but I would suggest that this falls under the umbrella of sport specific optimistation more than general fitness.

 

[wise_guy]

They sent out final reminders last week. Picked up at Mr Price Sport.

 

[Agent_Smith]

They sent out final reminders last week. Picked up at Mr Price Sport.
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It's actually a fantastic medal. Ironic that the medal you get for completing the virtual Comrades looks better than the one for completing the actual run....

 

[Agent_Smith]

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After spending my life savings at Solomon store and running every ridge and mountain in Johannesburg I'm finally here

Tomorrow 4am the journey begins

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It was only after looking at this pic for a few minutes did I realize there was a Salomon store in it....

 

[beefymoocow]

What an experience
Not recommend for anyone with a brain

Congrats. Would love to do the skyrun one day But your time is fast

 

[karnuffel]

Sooo I did a brick session on Saturday and tripped on thin air during my run so I decided to take the week off... Felt great after the rest this morning and did quite a reasonable pace.

Just over 3KM into the run I hear a stupid number of gunshots. Sounds like it was a hit on a taxi boss. I can tell you I finished my run as fast as I could, yet still not PRs on strava... Fun times in SA!

 

[Steamy Tom]

Sooo I did a brick session on Saturday and tripped on thin air during my run so I decided to take the week off... Felt great after the rest this morning and did quite a reasonable pace.

Just over 3KM into the run I hear a stupid number of gunshots. Sounds like it was a hit on a taxi boss. I can tell you I finished my run as fast as I could, yet still not PRs on strava... Fun times in SA!

yeah apparently 2 P4, and 3 others injured including a baby

 

[Aharon]

Has anyone recently done a Garmin Discounted Replacement where their garmin watch broke? The LED on mine seems to be dying and they say I must send it in and they will quote for a discounted replacement. Surely this has a fixed cost per model. I dont want to pay for courier to find out the replacement is the cost of a new watch.

 

[Jehosefat]

Has anyone recently done a Garmin Discounted Replacement where their garmin watch broke? The LED on mine seems to be dying and they say I must send it in and they will quote for a discounted replacement. Surely this has a fixed cost per model. I dont want to pay for courier to find out the replacement is the cost of a new watch.

They usually say that they will quote because, depending on what is wrong with the watch, they might replace it for free as opposed to the discounted replacement. For example, I took in a Forerunner 945 that's battery failed (would use like 20% in an hour and it's supposed to last for 10 hours) that was out of warrantee, expecting a discounted replacement, and they replaced it for free.

That said, if they do quote you for the discounted replacement, I've heard of values between R1,500 and R3,500 depending on what particular model you take in and what they replace it with.

 

[Aharon]

They usually say that they will quote because, depending on what is wrong with the watch, they might replace it for free as opposed to the discounted replacement. For example, I took in a Forerunner 945 that's battery failed (would use like 20% in an hour and it's supposed to last for 10 hours) that was out of warrantee, expecting a discounted replacement, and they replaced it for free.

That said, if they do quote you for the discounted replacement, I've heard of values between R1,500 and R3,500 depending on what particular model you take in and what they replace it with.

Thanks so much dude. So mine is a basic VivoActive 3, 2 years old and the LED screen has a dead blotch on it. You think I'd be looking at R1500? I suppose its worthwhile given this watch is 2 years old battery getting old blah blah. What do you think?

 

[Scary_Turtle]

Anyone had experience with carbon plated running shoes?

I bought myself a pair of the Hoka Carbon X https://www.hokaoneone.eu/en/za/men-road/carbon-x/1102886-SS.html but have only had 2 runs in them speed work and a 20km on Sunday.

The speed work made me feel really fast but I think it might be the 120grams per shoe lighter than my current shoes that made it feel fast.

On the long run is where I felt the energy returns, I normally get a bit antsy around the 15-18km mark and start looking at my watch but felt smooth all the way to the 20km. Maybe a bit of bias but I think this is where they shine.