The PC Build Thread

[Dan C]

Mind sharing those bad reviews?

 

[ponder]

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The egit probably forgot the standoffs and screwed it to the case and shorted everything out, people do that. Even if it was not the case every single product out there can fail. My superflower psu died with a loud bang and a bright flash followed by smoke, does that mean superflower makes bad products?

That board has a 4/5 average on newegg, 65% of votes scored it 4 and above, 74% 3 and above. https://www.newegg.com/global/za-en/p/N82E16813157841

What product from asus, gigabyte & msi can compete with it in that price bracket? All you will get is their entry level boards with no heatsinks, 2x dimm slots, no m.2, matx form factor.

There are quite a few people here that have one, they sell really well and woot & rebel just replenished their stock again.

 

[Dan C]

The egit probably forgot the standoffs and screwed it to the case and shorted everything out, people do that. Even if it was not the case every single product out there can fail. My superflower psu died with a loud bang and a bright flash followed by smoke, does that mean superflower makes bad products?

That board has a 4/5 average on newegg, 65% of votes scored it 4 and above, 74% 3 and above. https://www.newegg.com/global/za-en/p/N82E16813157841

What product from asus, gigabyte & msi can compete with it in that price bracket? All you will get is their entry level boards with no heatsinks, 2x dimm slots, no m.2, matx form factor.

There are quite a few people here that have one, they sell really well and woot & rebel just replenished their stock again.

I was just kidding , but the superflower thing has me concerned. I bought a 650 w to be used soon. Eeek.

 

[ponder]

I was just kidding , but the superflower thing has me concerned. I bought a 650 w to be used soon. Eeek.

Nothing wrong with them so don't worry, I just had bad luck & it did happen at the time when eishkom was loadshedding a lot. Return rate on them are very low according to wootware. They're also a OEM for many well known PSU brands, nothing wrong with their quality, johnyguru rates them up there with seasonic.

 

[shooter69]

Hi
I'm not the nearly as smart as 99% of you guys so please help out if you can. I want to upgrade my pc and I use it for everything and gaming wise it's below par so I've got about R6000 if needed I can sell my kidney and stretch it to R10k to spend. Not sure what I can keep and what I need to chuck. So if possible give options for R6K and R10K.
I will keep my case (coolermaster storm) and my monitor (27") and power supply (see pic). My one fan is not working on my 660 graphics card so that will have to go. Sorry I only realise now how dirty my box is inside. **** it's dirty. Sorry. Other specs also on attached pics. I will keep my hard drives too. I stay down the road from wootware.
Please help.
Thanks

Considering you have a case, psu and HDD's. I would go for the below :

 

[ponder]

Considering you have a case, psu and HDD's. I would go for the below :

8GB single channel 2666MHz RAM is not great on Ryzen, there's a reason evetech kits are cheaper.

 

[Prawnapple]

8GB single channel 2666MHz RAM is not great on Ryzen, there's a reason evetech kits are cheaper.

Yeah, look out for this. Go 3200Mhz or don't bother.

 

[shooter69]

8GB single channel 2666MHz RAM is not great on Ryzen, there's a reason evetech kits are cheaper.

Just add 1 more 8 gig ram stick.

Yeah, look out for this. Go 3200Mhz or don't bother.

I am running 32gigs of 2666 memory with a Ryzen 2700. Pretty happy with how everything performs. I cannot see that going 3200 would make that much of a difference.

Also, I suggested the 1600 kit + RX580 so the guy can get 60fps on high in most games at 1080p which is achievable with 2666 ram at that price point. If he ups is budget then by all means, go faster cpu and ram.

 

[Prawnapple]

Just add 1 more 8 gig ram stick.

I am running 32gigs of 2666 memory with a Ryzen 2700. Pretty happy with how everything performs. I cannot see that going 3200 would make that much of a difference.

That's fine in your case because the Ryzen 2700 only supports 2933MHz max. If you're going Ryzen 5 3X or Ryzen 7 3X it will have 3200Mhz support.

 

[shooter69]

That's fine in your case because the Ryzen 2700 only supports 2933MHz max. If you're going Ryzen 5 3X or Ryzen 7 3X it will have 3200Mhz support.

Yes, so you would agree that going for 3200mhz or higher for the Ryzen 1600 kit is pretty much pointless.

 

[Prawnapple]

Yes, so you would agree that going for 3200mhz or higher for the Ryzen 1600 kit is pretty much pointless.

I would agree, I'm just considering future-proofing one's rig

 

[Lupus]

Yes, so you would agree that going for 3200mhz or higher for the Ryzen 1600 kit is pretty much pointless.

Well only if they never want to try overclock or attempt it. But Ryzens like faster memory as well, so rather go as high you can, rather than scrape the bottom.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

That's fine in your case because the Ryzen 2700 only supports 2933MHz max. If you're going Ryzen 5 3X or Ryzen 7 3X it will have 3200Mhz support.

Just to clarify this:

> Ryzen 2700 only supports 2933MHz max officially

That's just the official supported spec, you can overclock past this if your motherboard supports it. I have been running 3200Mhz on both the Ryzen 1700 and 2700X and can get 3600Mhz running on my 2700X but my specific kit has to run at poor timings so I run it at 3200MHz CL14 instead.

 

[Kensei2605]

As per ponder want to get this

The new stuff:
R3679 - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa Core 3.6GHz (4.2GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop CPU
R1572 - ASRock B450 PRO4 AMD B450 Ryzen Socket AM4 ATX Desktop Motherboard
R1539 - TeamGroup TLGD416G3200HC16CDC01 T-Force Vulcan 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V RAM
with a RX5700

Im stuck at the monitor looking at the following monitors but so many opinions maybe someone can recommend or maybe have one of these monitors ?



https://www.wootware.co.za/aoc-cq27g1-27-2560x1440-144hz-1ms-va-freesync-gaming-desktop-monitor.html
https://www.evetech.co.za/samsung-u28e590d-4k-monitor/best-deal/2346.aspx
https://www.evetech.co.za/samsung-cjg50-144hz-curved-gaming-monitor/best-deal/5979.aspx

 

[ponder]

Im stuck at the monitor looking at the following monitors but so many opinions maybe someone can recommend or maybe have one of these monitors ?

The RX 5700 is not a 4k gpu, rather look at 1440p high refresh.

For the MB consider this if budget allows https://www.takealot.com/msi-b450m-bazooka-plus-am4-mainboard/PLID53983347

Wrt to the RX5700 cards wait for the AIB cards to arrive, don't get a blower model.

 

[Kensei2605]

Thanks Ponder. Any idea about the release of the AIB cards ?

 

[ponder]

Thanks Ponder. Any idea about the release of the AIB cards ?

Should be real soon as I've already seen reviews for asus, powercolor & sapphire models online. The powercolor has a beast of a cooler!

 

[Ringo26]

First time poster. Wanted to provide some info for peeps looking to upgrade. I couldn't find anyone running the new Ryzen 3700X on an older GPU. I just did the following:

• Mobo: MSI Z77A (G43 something something) changed to MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi
• CPU: Core i5 3570 with Hyper 212 cooler changed to Ryzen 3700X with stock cooler
• Memory: 8gb DDR3 1600MHz to 16gb DDR4 3200MHz
• My GPU stayed the same: Powercolour RX480 8Gb
• PSU, storage, etc. stayed the same.

The results:

• My temps have stayed the same, hovering around 75 Celsius on the GPU and about 70 Celcius on the CPU.
• Startup is slightly slower (I've seen people complaining that the mobo I chose slows startups.)
• Performance in Windows is mostly the same. Maybe a little snappier. It was pretty damn snappy before the upgrade (I'll fondly remember my Ivy Bridge forever).
• I use civil design software like Prokon and Dlubal. Both are much faster when analyzing structures. (This has been fun).
• I currently play Battlefield 5 and Witcher 3. Both have almost doubled their frame rates at 1080p. BF 5 went from 40 - 50 on low settings to hovering around 90 - 120 also on low.
• The Witcher 3 went from medium to high settings averaging 50-ish FPS to Ultra settings staying locked at 60 FPS.

Observations:

• Can't believe how much more performance this upgrade has gotten out of my RX480. I almost bought a new GPU with the CPU, very glad I didn't. There's still some life in the old bird.
• The mobo BIOS had to be flashed to a new version. It was super unstable and crappy with it's stock BIOS.
• The system as a whole is much quieter than before.

 

[weelzSA]

So after a few weeks finally got it up and running. Was my first attempt at custom Waterloop. Bends not perfect but happy for now.

Just need to get ram speed sorted (running trident z RGB 3200mhz with the 3700x). Anyone here have confirmed speeds that run stable or should I just leave it at stock ram speeds.

 

[Neoprod]

So after a few weeks finally got it up and running. Was my first attempt at custom Waterloop. Bends not perfect but happy for now.

Just need to get ram speed sorted (running trident z RGB 3200mhz with the 3700x). Anyone here have confirmed speeds that run stable or should I just leave it at stock ram speeds.

Is the memory rated at 16-18-18-38 at 3200? That's the kit I have...it didn't overclock well on my Z170 board but maybe you'll have better luck. I didn't want to increase CAS and the memory didn't want to boot at faster than 3200 even at 17-20-20-40. The testing was getting on my nerves so I just tweaked the timings at default - it's at 15-17-17-34 now with trfc at 416 (default was programmed to 560 by Asus for some reason).

Get Thaiphoon Burner and check who GSkill sourced the memory from...if it is CAS 16, it's probably Hynix (not great at overclocking) but if it's rated for lower latency out the box, you might get lucky.