The PC Build Thread

[Lupus]

You don't really need the liquid cooling if you're not going to really overclock hecticly.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

You don't really need the liquid cooling if you're not going to really overclock hecticly.

I never overclock, at least not anymore. My experience is that the gains you obtain, are not worth the lowered life expectancy for the devices. If you want something the has 4 turbo's on, buy it, don't try bolting them on afterwards.

 

[Choppie81]

The 3700X comes with the Wraith Prism RGB LED cooler in the box so isn't strictly necessary.

That said, they run hot so an upgrade isn't a bad idea.

I would swap that GPU for a 2060 Super.

Depending on your workload, 32GB might be overkill. If it's a gaming PC, 16GB is just fine. However, Ryzen CPUs respond nicely to RAM speed upgrades. Drop to 16GB but upgrade to a faster speed (minimum 3200MHz) for some nice gains.

Not sure how well that case breathes - seems quite restricted on the front. Maybe do a bit of research to confirm but Ryzen does run a little hot - I'd want some front intake fans.

Thanks, I was thinking of the 2060 but there are a few different ones like these on Wootware:

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I was going for 32GB RAM due to it not being a gaming pc but more for editing video footage. It's when I do 4K that I'll need more but unsure at this stage what is required. Will opt for 3200mhz as well.

I'll look into the case and fans but I'm a bit unsure of the liquid cooled fans. I haven't built a pc in 10 years and my old one is struggling with 2k so the 4k isn't even an option.

Bad timing to build... but it is what it is...

 

[Choppie81]

You don't really need the liquid cooling if you're not going to really overclock hecticly.

So a normal upgraded cooler fan would do?

 

[Lupus]

The 3700X comes with the Wraith Prism RGB LED cooler in the box so isn't strictly necessary.

That said, they run hot so an upgrade isn't a bad idea.

I would swap that GPU for a 2060 Super.

Depending on your workload, 32GB might be overkill. If it's a gaming PC, 16GB is just fine. However, Ryzen CPUs respond nicely to RAM speed upgrades. Drop to 16GB but upgrade to a faster speed (minimum 3200MHz) for some nice gains.

Not sure how well that case breathes - seems quite restricted on the front. Maybe do a bit of research to confirm but Ryzen does run a little hot - I'd want some front intake fans.

Ryzens don't run hotter actually, that's an old carry over from the older AMD days.

 

[Lupus]

So a normal upgraded cooler fan would do?

Even the one with the Ryzen 3700x will do for now.

 

[Choppie81]

Even the one with the Ryzen 3700x will do for now.

Thanks... will check that out.

 

[Lupus]

Thanks... will check that out.

Yup currently i'm using the stocks on the 2600 and 1600AF which is the Stealths, sure it's sitting at 37 degrees average.

 

[UrBaN963]

Thanks, I was thinking of the 2060 but there are a few different ones like these on Wootware:

Graphics Cards on Sale - South Africa - Wootware

Buy Graphics Cards at discounted prices and get delivery to your door, hassle-free! Browse our wide selection of AMD Radeon and NVIDIA GeForce GPUs and woot-up your life!

www.wootware.co.za

I was going for 32GB RAM due to it not being a gaming pc but more for editing video footage. It's when I do 4K that I'll need more but unsure at this stage what is required. Will opt for 3200mhz as well.

I'll look into the case and fans but I'm a bit unsure of the liquid cooled fans. I haven't built a pc in 10 years and my old one is struggling with 2k so the 4k isn't even an option.

Bad timing to build... but it is what it is...

Okay yea then the additional RAM would pay dividends. If it's for video editing I don't know if there'd be much reason to go for a more expensive GPU - someone with more experience in that field will have to advise on that one.

What do you mean by liquid cooled fans? Do you mean the fans for the radiator? If you're not getting the AIO then you could just slap some case fans at the top, will help with airflow and keeping temps nicely under control.

i also wouldn't buy Windows from Wootware / Evetech. Just get a retail key from Carb for R99 - they're legit and work perfectly, I've used a few of them.. I bought from Letumkeys - his response was rapid (like within the hour) and the key worked perfectly.

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[Lupus]

Okay yea then the additional RAM would pay dividends. If it's for video editing I don't know if there'd be much reason to go for a more expensive GPU - someone with more experience in that field will have to advise on that one.

What do you mean by liquid cooled fans? Do you mean the fans for the radiator? If you're not getting the AIO then you could just slap some case fans at the top, will help with airflow and keeping temps nicely under control.

i also wouldn't buy Windows from Wootware / Evetech. Just get a retail key from Carb for R99 - they're legit and work perfectly, I've used a few of them.. I bought from Letumkeys - his response was rapid (like within the hour) and the key worked perfectly.

[Reseller] - / - | Microsoft

WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE : A Windows 10/11 Pro Retail License Key + Download link ⬇ DELIVERY: INSTANT OR WITHIN A FEW HOURS AT MOST POP A PM AND YOU WILL BE ASSISTED INSTANTLY OR WITHIN AN HOUR

carbonite.co.za

The 2060 is a decent video editing card, but for real video editing there is still the Matrox cards, people don't realise they still exist, but they aren't normal consumer cards, they also are about the price of a RTX 2070

 

[ponder]

This is the quote I got from Evetech for R26k... the same build at Wootware would be around R30k or more now.

I just never ordered from Evetech before...

Ryzen 7 3700X (3.6GHz, 36MB Cache, 8x Cores, 4.4GHz+ Turbo)
MSI X470 Gaming Plus MAX Ryzen ATX Motherboard
Radeon RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
Gamdias ARGUS E1 Gaming Case
Antec VP650 80+ High Performance Power Supply
32GB DDR4 2666Mhz High Performance Gaming RAM
Gamdias Chione M2-240R All-in-One CPU Liquid Cooler??? Not sure if required for this build? Could use the funds for better RAM or motherboard
[NVMe] Hikvision E2000 512GB M.2 SSD Read Upto 3300MB/s
Windows 10 Home 64bit
2 Years (1st yr. Parts & Labour, 2nd yr. Labour only)

A B450 board will be fine.
2666MHz RAM is a no-no.
Case has ba airflow
Only 1yr warranty on parts!?
Try for a 5700xt

 

[Choppie81]

Okay yea then the additional RAM would pay dividends. If it's for video editing I don't know if there'd be much reason to go for a more expensive GPU - someone with more experience in that field will have to advise on that one.

What do you mean by liquid cooled fans? Do you mean the fans for the radiator? If you're not getting the AIO then you could just slap some case fans at the top, will help with airflow and keeping temps nicely under control.

i also wouldn't buy Windows from Wootware / Evetech. Just get a retail key from Carb for R99 - they're legit and work perfectly, I've used a few of them.. I bought from Letumkeys - his response was rapid (like within the hour) and the key worked perfectly.

[Reseller] - / - | Microsoft

WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE : A Windows 10/11 Pro Retail License Key + Download link ⬇ DELIVERY: INSTANT OR WITHIN A FEW HOURS AT MOST POP A PM AND YOU WILL BE ASSISTED INSTANTLY OR WITHIN AN HOUR

carbonite.co.za

Thanks for the link. That will save about R2500.

I think I'll stick to the regular fans. Perhaps add some top fans at a later stage if it does run hotter for some reason.

 

[Choppie81]

A B450 board will be fine.
2666MHz RAM is a no-no.
Case has ba airflow
Only 1yr warranty on parts!?
Try for a 5700xt

Yes, definately looking at faster RAM now.

Talking under correction now... but from what I understand the B450 requires a BIOS flash...? just what a saw on a couple of youtube videos where they paired the 3700 with B450.

 

[Ancalagon]

Yes, definately looking at faster RAM now.

Talking under correction now... but from what I understand the B450 requires a BIOS flash...? just what a saw on a couple of youtube videos where they paired the 3700 with B450.

Probably depends on the age of the B450 board. I'd imagine that most if not all of the B450 boards that you can buy today support the latest Ryzen chips.

 

[ponder]

Yes, definately looking at faster RAM now.

Talking under correction now... but from what I understand the B450 requires a BIOS flash...? just what a saw on a couple of youtube videos where they paired the 3700 with B450.

Depends on the board, when it was produced and not the chipset.
Boards with biosflashback feature are cool as you can flash them without a cpu.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Depends on the board, when it was produced and not the chipset.
Boards with biosflashback feature are cool as you can flash them without a cpu.

Indeed most of msi board can do flashing without cpu

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Even the one with the Ryzen 3700x will do for now.

They won't give you a cooler with the CPU if it's completely inadequate. I run the 3700X with the stock cooler, and it idles around 55C, and gets around 80C with intensive usage.

There is one annoyance though. It will sometimes speed up the fan, then cool down and slow down the fan, then get warmer, and speed up the fan etc....
A custom fan profile fixed it though.

 

[Choppie81]

Thanks everyone for the information so far. Will see when the next quote comes through. I'll probably only order the parts and put together here at home and install Windows as was suggested earlier.

 

[UrBaN963]

Remember, components with RGB will give you a 1012% performance increase. It's why PCs are faster than consoles.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Remember, components with RGB will give you a 1012% performance increase. It's why PCs are faster than consoles.

Damn it my new headset is not RGB, can definitely feel the fps loss in warzone