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[Nike7]

I need an nvme drive.

SSD 980 or 970 Evo Pro? What’s DRAM for and why would I need it?

Is there any reason to go for a 980 Pro?

 

[Nike7]

And then I need a GPU, but I think I’ll just go get the 560Ti out of the garage

 

[The Voice]

I need an nvme drive.

SSD 980 or 970 Evo Pro? What’s DRAM for and why would I need it?

Is there any reason to go for a 980 Pro?

If you don’t know why, then you’re never going to notice the difference, anyway, so just go for the cheaper one.

Also, why do you need an NVME over a regular SSD?

Edit: forgot to answer the other question. DRAM is system memory. Your PC can’t run without it.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

I need an nvme drive.

SSD 980 or 970 Evo Pro? What’s DRAM for and why would I need it?

Is there any reason to go for a 980 Pro?

DRAM in the SSD spec sheet means a RAM cache on the SSD. It improves performance quite significantly when writing.
I don't think it affects reading performance much or at all.

 

[airborne]

If you don’t know why, then you’re never going to notice the difference, anyway, so just go for the cheaper one.

Also, why do you need an NVME over a regular SSD?

Edit: forgot to answer the other question. DRAM is system memory. Your PC can’t run without it.

An Nve is definitely a worthwhile upgrade over a sata SSD, around 3 times the performance. You won't notice it on everything but something's move from being almost instant to damn well instant.

 

[The Voice]

DRAM in the SSD spec sheet means a RAM cache on the SSD. It improves performance quite significantly when writing.
I don't think it affects reading performance much or at all.

Right, as in SSD specific. Thought it was general DRAM.

 

[The Voice]

An Nve is definitely a worthwhile upgrade over a sata SSD, around 3 times the performance. You won't notice it on everything but something's move from being almost instant to damn well instant.

We don’t know the use case anyway (especially as he’s considering using a 560ti in the same system), but the average person isn’t really going to notice the difference in boot/load times, so it’s not really worthwhile spending a significant amount more on something like a 980 Pro.

[mention]Nike7 [/mention] what do you intend to do with the PC?

 

[airborne]

We don’t know the use case anyway (especially as he’s considering using a 560ti in the same system), but the average person isn’t really going to notice the difference in boot/load times, so it’s not really worthwhile spending a significant amount more on something like a 980 Pro.

[mention]Nike7 [/mention] what do you intend to do with the PC?

But there's not a huge price difference between SATA SSD And Nve so he may as well choose the futureproof option.

 

[Tjoker]

With a price difference of R100, which one would be best?

https://www.wootware.co.za/samsung-mz-v8p1t0bw-980-pro-1tb-nvme-m-2-2280-pci-express-4-0-x4-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rkt4p-1tb-rocket-4-plus-1tb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-gp-ssd-gen4-1tb-aorus-1tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive.html

Spec wise it seems the Sabrent is a little better? The warranty on the Gigabyte TBW is much higher.

 

[airborne]

With a price difference of R100, which one would be best?

https://www.wootware.co.za/samsung-mz-v8p1t0bw-980-pro-1tb-nvme-m-2-2280-pci-express-4-0-x4-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rkt4p-1tb-rocket-4-plus-1tb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-gp-ssd-gen4-1tb-aorus-1tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive.html

Spec wise it seems the Sabrent is a little better? The warranty on the Gigabyte TBW is much higher.

I'd always go with Samsung but in real world use there's not much difference between drives, longer warranty is longer warranty though..

 

[The Voice]

With a price difference of R100, which one would be best?

https://www.wootware.co.za/samsung-mz-v8p1t0bw-980-pro-1tb-nvme-m-2-2280-pci-express-4-0-x4-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rkt4p-1tb-rocket-4-plus-1tb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-gp-ssd-gen4-1tb-aorus-1tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive.html

Spec wise it seems the Sabrent is a little better? The warranty on the Gigabyte TBW is much higher.

Sabrent, then Samsung. Skip the Gigabyte entirely. Those heat sinks are unnecessary and end up choking the NAND.

 

[ponder]

With a price difference of R100, which one would be best?

https://www.wootware.co.za/samsung-mz-v8p1t0bw-980-pro-1tb-nvme-m-2-2280-pci-express-4-0-x4-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rkt4p-1tb-rocket-4-plus-1tb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-gp-ssd-gen4-1tb-aorus-1tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive.html

Spec wise it seems the Sabrent is a little better? The warranty on the Gigabyte TBW is much higher.

I would go Samsung.

 

[Sapphiron]

With a price difference of R100, which one would be best?

https://www.wootware.co.za/samsung-mz-v8p1t0bw-980-pro-1tb-nvme-m-2-2280-pci-express-4-0-x4-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/sabrent-sb-rkt4p-1tb-rocket-4-plus-1tb-m-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-gp-ssd-gen4-1tb-aorus-1tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive.html

Spec wise it seems the Sabrent is a little better? The warranty on the Gigabyte TBW is much higher.

I got one of these a few months ago: https://www.wootware.co.za/seagate-...-2-2280-nvme-pci-e-4-0-solid-state-drive.html

Price was 3,479.00 incl VAT

I see it is out of stock now, but it could just be that the supplier is closed for the holidays, till Tuesday of Wednesday next week for them to update their systems.

5 year warranty and much higher TBW compared to the Samsung 980 Pro.

having had both in my desktop, I can say the Seagate is faster than the Samsung and it was cheaper. It uses top end micron NAND chips that are the best in the industry currently and the Phison E18 controller is a match for anything Samsumg has.

Here are some real world benchmarks after about 3 months of use. on my Ryzen X570 board:



One place where I would go with the Samsung 980 pro is for a laptop, because it has lower idle power draw for better battery life.

Here is a review with more info. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seagate-firecuda-530-m2-nvme-ssd-review/2

 

[Sapphiron]

We don’t know the use case anyway (especially as he’s considering using a 560ti in the same system), but the average person isn’t really going to notice the difference in boot/load times, so it’s not really worthwhile spending a significant amount more on something like a 980 Pro.

[mention]Nike7 [/mention] what do you intend to do with the PC?

I actually have SATA SSD's that outperform (4K random, which represents most general usage) the cheap NVME drives because of DRAM cache and/or better controllers.

 

[SpleenPoker]

How are the msi 3060 ventus 2x cards? Can't find any reviews for the non ti version and a few comments suggest heating and noise issues which aren't ideal.

 

[jellievis]

I actually have SATA SSD's that outperform (4K random, which represents most general usage) the cheap NVME drives because of DRAM cache and/or better controllers.

Sapphiron,

Which SATA SSD's are you referring to?

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Celerons are back! Might get one for my test rig. Test rig still stuck on 3rd gen

 

[airborne]

Celerons are back! Might get one for my test rig. Test rig still stuck on 3rd gen

How did they get that one right?

 

[The Voice]

Celerons are back! Might get one for my test rig. Test rig still stuck on 3rd gen

Decent gaming chip then.

 

[Neoprod]

2 cores, 2 threads...it's going to struggle like a Beetle going up a hill in modern games.

Should be "ok" for DX9 era stuff.