The PC Build Thread

[furpile]

All the MB standoffs in the right place so no shorts?
GPU in top pcie slot? The bottom pcie slot is disabled with the ssd in the top m.2 slot as per photo.

I checked the standoffs. My old mobo was a mATX so i had to move one and add 2 more. I counted them as well (7 holes) and made sure I put 7 screws in so I think that is ok.

As per previous post the gpu is in the top slot, just below the M2 Ultra where the nvme is in.

 

[furpile]

Nice, I thought it could've been the mobo needing a bios flash too. But I'm hoping for his sake that it just needs to reboot a few times like mine did

Thanks for the help. It is the 1600AF as ponder said. How would you flash the bios if you don't have display? Would you have to use another cpu first? Just for interest.

I looked online and also saw mention of leaving it the first boot for a few minutes. I left it for at least 5 minutes and rebooted multiple times. Nothing.

What is also annoying is the lack of onboard graphics. Then at least you could try that to rule out the gpu.

 

[furpile]

I think tomorrow I should take it all out the case and test it outside the case. Just to make sure there are no issues from there.

 

[GlassMirror]

Thanks for the help. It is the 1600AF as ponder said. How would you flash the bios if you don't have display? Would you have to use another cpu first? Just for interest.

I looked online and also saw mention of leaving it the first boot for a few minutes. I left it for at least 5 minutes and rebooted multiple times. Nothing.

What is also annoying is the lack of onboard graphics. Then at least you could try that to rule out the gpu.

Usually you use another CPU or in most cases the old CPU that was in the mobo but since you don't have that yeah it won't work. I have a 2600 which is basically the same as the 1600AF

You know what, I'm also starting to think it might be the mobo

 

[Lupus]

Thanks for the help. It is the 1600AF as ponder said. How would you flash the bios if you don't have display? Would you have to use another cpu first? Just for interest.

I looked online and also saw mention of leaving it the first boot for a few minutes. I left it for at least 5 minutes and rebooted multiple times. Nothing.

What is also annoying is the lack of onboard graphics. Then at least you could try that to rule out the gpu.

That's how it was in the old days, than motherboards came with onboard GPUs, than they moved to CPUs.

 

[furpile]

Usually you use another CPU or in most cases the old CPU that was in the mobo but since you don't have that yeah it won't work. I have a 2600 which is basically the same as the 1600AF

You know what, I'm also starting to think it might be the mobo

That would suck. Means another week to get it back to them, and another week to get it back here.

A friend of mine bought similar parts recently, but I think a MSI board. First one was DOA, second one he tried to update bios and it bricked. Now he asked the supplier to update the bios on the new board before sending it. That is a lot of wasted time.

 

[furpile]

That's how it was in the old days, than motherboards came with onboard GPUs, than they moved to CPUs.

Ah yes, the days where I longed to have a Voodoo 3D card like my friend.

 

[Lupus]

Ah yes, the days where I longed to have a Voodoo 3D card like my friend.

Yup

 

[GlassMirror]

That would suck. Means another week to get it back to them, and another week to get it back here.

A friend of mine bought similar parts recently, but I think a MSI board. First one was DOA, second one he tried to update bios and it bricked. Now he asked the supplier to update the bios on the new board before sending it. That is a lot of wasted time.

Now that is very sad, I wouldn't know if I should cry or break down if I was in his situation

 

[ponder]

Don't you have a spare gpu to test with? Maybe a friend?

 

[furpile]

Don't you have a spare gpu to test with? Maybe a friend?

No. But the gpu gives a display output on the old pc.

 

[ponder]

No. But the gpu gives a display output on the old pc.

Try with just the cpu, gpu, 1 stick of ram in a2, 8 & 24pin MB power & GPU connecters plugged in.
On the gpu try the different output ports.

 

[furpile]

Try with just the cpu, gpu, 1 stick of ram in a2, 8 & 24pin MB power & GPU connecters plugged in.
On the gpu try the different output ports.

I tested again now and noticed the new board is doing a boot loop. Maybe I didn't notice yesterday because of the display issue I don't know. So i removed the gpu, both ram sticks and the m2, still boot loops every 10 seconds or so. Does that mean the mobo is stuffed?

 

[CaneMan]

What 5 series CPU is that? What BIOS is installed on the MB?

 

[furpile]

What 5 series CPU is that? What BIOS is installed on the MB?

1600AF. No idea what bios is installed since I haven't been able to get into it yet.

 

[CaneMan]

There should be a sticker on the MB. It seems that CPU needs Ver.3.90 BIOs.

 

[furpile]

There should be a sticker on the MB. It seems that CPU needs Ver.3.90 BIOs.

View attachment 812827

Looks like it has 3.90 on it.

Looking online most people say itt works fine.

 

[ponder]

Looks like it has 3.90 on it.

Looking online most people say itt works fine.

Do you have a speaker connected to header 15? If not connect one and see if you get any bios beep codes.

Also try resetting the cmos.

 

[furpile]

Do you have a speaker connected to header 15? If not connect one and see if you get any bios beep codes.

Also try resetting the cmos.

Case doesn't have a speaker but will see if my old case has one. Will also try resetting the cmos.

Thanks for all the help guys.

 

[maqs]

R1699 - MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX AMD AM4 B450 Micro-ATX Desktop Motherboard
R1599 - G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory
R909 - Super Flower SF-500P14HE ECO Bronze King Eco 500W 80 Plus Bronze Non-Modular Black Desktop Power Supply
R550 - Windows 10 Professional

CPU, whatever floats your boat
R2179 - AMD YD3200C5FHBOX Ryzen 3 3200G Quad Core 3.6GHz (4.0GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
R1799 - AMD Ryzen 3 3200G AM4 CPU
R2749 - AMD Ryzen 5 3400G AM4 CPU

SSD, I would go for size over absolute speed as you won't notice it
r1399 - Western Digital WDS500G2B0B Blue 500GB 3D NAND SATA 6Gb/s M.2 2280 Solid State Drive
R1179 - Sabrent SB-ROCKET-256 ROCKET 256GB M.2 (2280) NVMe PCI-E 3.0 Solid State Drive

R1699 - MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX AMD AM4 B450 Micro-ATX Desktop Motherboard
R1599 - G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory
R909 - Super Flower SF-500P14HE ECO Bronze King Eco 500W 80 Plus Bronze Non-Modular Black Desktop Power Supply
R550 - Windows 10 Professional

CPU, whatever floats your boat
R2179 - AMD YD3200C5FHBOX Ryzen 3 3200G Quad Core 3.6GHz (4.0GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
R1799 - AMD Ryzen 3 3200G AM4 CPU
R2749 - AMD Ryzen 5 3400G AM4 CPU

SSD, I would go for size over absolute speed as you won't notice it
r1399 - Western Digital WDS500G2B0B Blue 500GB 3D NAND SATA 6Gb/s M.2 2280 Solid State Drive
R1179 - Sabrent SB-ROCKET-256 ROCKET 256GB M.2 (2280) NVMe PCI-E 3.0 Solid State Drive

think im going to go with most of what you recommended
probably the 3 3200g CPU
MSI b450 board
g skil 2x8gb ram
256gb ssd
2tb hard drive for now with view to add another
choosing between the fractal and phantek cases
windows off nucleustech who ive previously bought laptop off

ive never heard of the brand of PSU you have mentioned, any good?

do i need additional equipment?
cooler? fans? raid controller?