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Upgrading my PCU to a i3 9100F. Which mobo would you guys recommend (Not really looking to future proof as I will sell this rig and upgrade my entire system next year)


MSI H310M PRO-VH PLUS Micro ATX Motherboard (R 1200)

or

Gigabyte - H310M S2V 2.0 (R 1300)

They seem about the same but the MSI has HDPI port which is a nice to have.
 
L-Dog said:
They seem about the same but the MSI has HDPI port which is a nice to have.
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It will be entirely useless on an F-series CPU.

Get the cheapest board you can find that supports it, like the ASUS Prime H310M-K or similar. The 9100F is a decent chip, although second-hand deals are more competitive. I have seen people getting rid of their Core i5-8400/F chips on Carbonite and other forums.

Then again, why are you going to waste money on a platform you're just going to replace next year? Don't do that. You could instead grab a B460 motherboard and get better upgrade options once Rocket Lake-S has launched, or grab an AMD A520M board (like this one) and wait for the Ryzen 4000 series launch (should be November).

You can also pick up the MSI A320M Pro-A Max and look for second-hand deals on supported Ryzen 3 and 5 chips.
 
Can sell my current CPU and Mobo for around R 1100 - 1200. (Intel G4560 & Asrock B250M)

I also have a few loot vouchers and the I3 9100F seems very well priced for performance. The Asus looked fine but only has 4 USB ports at the back and I want 6.

If I can use the vouchers R 500. I can get an upgrade for around R 700. Want to keep it the best bang for buck and then get a decent Ryzen 3300X next year (entire new build)

Open to any suggestions for a CPU / Mobo combo for R 2000 - R 3000
 
I am having some issues on my new home pc. I bought a pair of USB headphones with a mic for working from home, a cheap Foxray pair from Takealot. At first it worked fine on my work pc, but the second day they wouldn't work. Eventually I got it working consistently on my work PC. However, on my home PC, since using it the pc now is consistently playing the hardware plugged in and out sound, and I can see in device manager the USB devices update as well. Often one of them shows an error with descriptor unknown. This is happening every second or 2 now as I type this. Sound still works through the headphones, and even if I plug them out it still happens. Last weekend it actually worked fine on this pc, but now it is doing it again. So obviously not the headphones itself, since it still happens with them plugged out (all usb devices plugged out in fact, even the front ports of the case).

I installed all windows updates (win10), installed the latest radeon drivers from Asrock, as well as the latest version of the radeon drivers through the app. I uninstalled all usb devices and restarted. Nothing is working now. Previously I resorted to turning the notification sounds off just to be able to play a game, but this is not a solution. Could the motherboard usb be faulty?

Asrock B450 Pro4
Ryzen 5 1600AF
 
furpile said:
Could the motherboard usb be faulty?
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It is possible, but it can also be driver related, or the front panel on the chassis could be faulty. What commonly happens is that the USB ports still work, but devices plugged into them may trip the over-current protection, which gives you that "Device has malfunctioned" error that pops up, and puts a triangle next to it on Device Manager.

Two things you can try:

1) Shut down the PC via the command prompt (enter "shutdown -s"), and disconnect the power. Hold in the power button for ten seconds, and then leave it to stand for five minutes for residual power in the PSU to drain. Plug it back in and power it on. Check if the USB ports still display the same error. If they do not, plug in the headset and see if you can trigger the error.

2) Download a Linux ISO (like Ubuntu), and use Rufus to flash it to a USB drive. Unplug unneeded peripherals except the keyboard and mouse, insert the flash drive and reboot the system, choosing the flash drive as your boot device to get into the Live ISO environment. Open the terminal, type in "lsusb" and hit enter. This gives you a list of USB controllers and peripherals registered to the system. Plug in the headphones again, run "lsusb" again and see if the headphones/mic pop up as expected. Test them while a video is playing and see if you can trigger an error where they don't show up after running lsusb by testing all the available ports.

The reason why you'd use Linux is to isolate if it is a driver issue or something hardware related, as the Linux kernel won't be using the same drivers Windows does. Linux kernel drivers implement USB power delivery in a standardised way, while the vendor drivers may have funky methods of getting things working.

If the error goes away after draining the PC of standby power, then you have something to work with. Check your wiring, check your ports for any rusting or damaged pins or fingers inside the ports, and try isolate which USB port displays the issue. As in, figure out if it's the front-panel I/O or the rear I/O ports.

If it's front I/O, you might have a faulty front panel. If it's rear I/O, you could be looking at anything from a BIOS bug to a motherboard issue, or a slightly noisy 5V rail from the power supply.
 
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CataclysmZA said:
It is possible, but it can also be driver related, or the front panel on the chassis could be faulty. What commonly happens is that the USB ports still work, but devices plugged into them may trip the over-current protection, which gives you that "Device has malfunctioned" error that pops up, and puts a triangle next to it on Device Manager.

Two things you can try:

1) Shut down the PC via the command prompt (enter "shutdown -s"), and disconnect the power. Hold in the power button for ten seconds, and then leave it to stand for five minutes for residual power in the PSU to drain. Plug it back in and power it on. Check if the USB ports still display the same error. If they do not, plug in the headset and see if you can trigger the error.

2) Download a Linux ISO (like Ubuntu), and use Rufus to flash it to a USB drive. Unplug unneeded peripherals except the keyboard and mouse, insert the flash drive and reboot the system, choosing the flash drive as your boot device to get into the Live ISO environment. Open the terminal, type in "lsusb" and hit enter. This gives you a list of USB controllers and peripherals registered to the system. Plug in the headphones again, run "lsusb" again and see if the headphones/mic pop up as expected. Test them while a video is playing and see if you can trigger an error where they don't show up after running lsusb by testing all the available ports.

The reason why you'd use Linux is to isolate if it is a driver issue or something hardware related, as the Linux kernel won't be using the same drivers Windows does. Linux kernel drivers implement USB power delivery in a standardised way, while the vendor drivers may have funky methods of getting things working.

If the error goes away after draining the PC of standby power, then you have something to work with. Check your wiring, check your ports for any rusting or damaged pins or fingers inside the ports, and try isolate which USB port displays the issue. As in, figure out if it's the front-panel I/O or the rear I/O ports.

If it's front I/O, you might have a faulty front panel. If it's rear I/O, you could be looking at anything from a BIOS bug to a motherboard issue, or a slightly noisy 5V rail from the power supply.
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Thanks for the detailed response, I will try again this weekend when I have time. The power thing makes sense because the pc was off and unplugged the whole previous week, and that weekend the headphones worked fine with no usb issues. Then last weekend it started again.

I will try the shutdown power down method to see. In one test I also unplugged the front panel with the pc off and unplugged, but it didn't help, although I did not drain all power so maybe the error just didn't clear?
 
Okay MSFS made me do it... looking to finally upgrade my 4970k/1080GTX rig. Bottlenecked by CPU!
Was looking at evetech but then saw the reviews... bloody hell :eek: wootware is best option i guess? Either way... most probably gonna hold out for zen 3?!!?...also new nvidias are coming out! good times!
 
MockTurtle said:
Okay MSFS made me do it... looking to finally upgrade my 4970k/1080GTX rig. Bottlenecked by CPU!
Was looking at evetech but then saw the reviews... bloody hell :eek: wootware is best option i guess? Either way... most probably gonna hold out for zen 3?!!?...also new nvidias are coming out! good times!
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Wait a bit. There's also titan ice and few others.
 
I have bought a GeForce GTX 1660 Super graphics card and now see it has only one HDMI port in it. But I see there are 3 x display ports.

Before I shell out on another cable, will HDMI to DP work into a second monitor?
 
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