The race card thread

[Syndyre]

I will pipe up with my next 2c, It actually makes no difference whether it was "cultural" or not. He IS a convicted criminal and there is a good chance he broke the law while on parole and he needs to be punished for that.

Cultural excuses be damned, he is a member of the ruling party in this country, who enacted the laws and the constitution we currently enjoy, therefore if he contravenes them, he needs to be punished by the same system his constitutients are.

Exactly, you can't hide behind culture if you've broken a law.

 

[xtermin8or]

yes, Africa is a tough place - but you want the TV, Fancy cars, Cell phones, big house in Sandton, Jobs .... AND still to keep a cultural identity? Thats wanting the best of both worlds.

What makes you think that these things you mentioned belong to or were created by whites, look at who works for your major cellphone companies, software developers, FFS even NASA has a minority of red-blooded white americans - this post shows your supremist thinking, or maybe you are just bitter because blacks in this country have all these things and still manage to maintain their cultural traditions

It is a known fact ( Apartheid proved it ) that white South Africans are largely intolerant of other cultures and beliefs, while it seems to have been dormant for a while, this intolerance is once again growing, I only feel sorry for your kids who must grow up in a household that teaches white supremacy and then go out into the real world, and like you realise that I am just a dumb fuck, and my boss is a black woman

 

[Nod]

But we are not in Europe although some of you still rather tragically seem to think so.

A change of mindset is required from you to realize that we live in an African country where we are the minority ... some of you on this forum still seem to think otherwise ... how amusing.

You assume then that all white people were born, and have grown up in Europe, then? No that is amusing, almost as amusing as Egyptians believing that people become dumber (and darker), the more south you go in Africa. In fact, most white people had never been overseas, and only "know" European live from TV and movies.

Being the majority, unfortunately doesn't make the actions any more right. If the law says it's wrong, it stays wrong, irrespective of opinion.

 

[Darth Garth]

You should know the typical African term then.. 'Being a Oreo' or 'Coconut' - Brown on the outside, White on the inside.

Also those not living here anymore should rather refrain from contributing their pearls of wisdom from afar ... it is neither sought or wanted.

 

[BCO]

tibby, as an educated person irrespective of race or "culture" can you not recognize how ridiculous is the concept that if you slaughter a bull it will appease your dead ancestors?

It's about as ridiculous as some guy coming back from the dead 2000 years ago. We seriously need to let this go.

Right here in this thread we have confrontation and antagonism based purely on 2 group's mutually incompatible superstition. Believing things that people in archaic times used to believe in because they didn't know any better is sad. This is the 21st century, it's time we all moved on, don't you think?

 

[froggytoo]

Also those not living here anymore should rather refrain from contributing their pearls of wisdom from afar ... it is neither sought or wanted.

Why? are you scared or ashamed at what others may think about the ridiculous ethnic believes? But most who posted here have also had a lot to say about Christian believes. Just goes to show the mentality of those.

Wonder what they would think about the tokelosh?

 

[RichardP]

Also those not living here anymore should rather refrain from contributing their pearls of wisdom from afar ... it is neither sought or wanted.

LOL! touched a nerve...
I have the Opportunity to explore the world - and have to guts to go DO IT, see new places - and now 'cos I want to see the world I 'must no longer care' about the drain my country is going down in?

I can see the oreo complex is really clouding your judgement. Why not just answer the question and then we all can understand.

 

[Darth Garth]

tibby, as an educated person irrespective of race or "culture" can you not recognize how ridiculous is the concept that if you slaughter a bull it will appease your dead ancestors?

I do not ridicule or belittle the beliefs of others ... just like I expect others to respect my belief in the holy trinity so I will happily return the favour.

To me that is just basic principles 101 of living in a multicultural and ethnic society like ourselves.

 

[Dmitrimm]

LOL! touched a nerve...
I have the Opportunity to explore the world - and have to guts to go DO IT, see new places - and now 'cos I want to see the world I 'must no longer care' about the drain my country is going down in?

Arrogant sh*t stirrer.

Do you wonder, perhaps, ever so slightly, why, hard to believe..you "touch a nerve"?

 

[RichardP]

Arrogant sh*t stirrer.

Do you wonder, perhaps, ever so slightly, why, hard to believe..you "touch a nerve"?

I try my best.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,9294,2-7-1442_2059402,00.html

Now this article is getting too much media attention! .. one of the kids is the uncles cousins twice removed grandsons sisters disowned brothers illigitimate son of a High profile Plolitical figure. Its the media's fault these kids got ill.

The cow was slaughtered after it fell ill and the meat was given to locals.

Twenty of those affected were taken to Mthatha General Hospital, and the remainder to the local clinic.

"We have sent environmental health officers to the village to investigate the whole incident. At this stage we don't know what action will be taken," said Kupelo.

 

[Darth Garth]

I can see the oreo complex is really clouding your judgement. Why not just answer the question and then we all can understand.

The last thing I want is to be ****ing lectured in the state of our country by somebody who no longer lives here.

WTF are you and gives you the right to comment ???.

Take a bloody hike foreigner.

 

[RichardP]

The last thing I want is to be ****ing lectured in the state of our country by somebody who no longer lives here.

WTF are you and gives you the right to comment ???.

Take a bloody hike foreigner.

Can you just answer the question? Guess not - rather stoop to low down character attacks

 

[Dmitrimm]

I try my best.

Where do you live in the UK, I mean street address, etc?

 

[RichardP]

Where do you live in the UK, I mean street address, etc?

You are quite funny. My profile gives enough information. but it has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[StrongTurd]

What makes you think that these things you mentioned belong to or were created by whites, look at who works for your major cellphone companies, software developers, FFS even NASA has a minority of red-blooded white americans

Oh yeah? Here are the facts:
http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/fsp2005/profiles/39-nasa.html

As you'll see when analyzing the spreadsheet, the so-called "red-blooded white Americans" make up 76% of NASA's workforce and black comprise 11.71%. Even more telling is that on senior management level, whites make up 83% of the NASA workforce and blacks only 7%. Hmmmm....

 

[RichardP]

I do not ridicule or belittle the beliefs of others ... just like I expect others to respect my belief in the holy trinity so I will happily return the favour.

To me that is just basic principles 101 of living in a multicultural and ethnic society like ourselves.

Just like a persons heritage, its not nice to belittle a persons roots. But Tibby, thats a double standard for you as you were attacking ME 'cos I lost faith in the SA Government. The original argument was about the 'race card' being played all the time. It has nothing to do with beliefs - its got to do with Ethics. Go Ahead, call me a racist, you know you want to - and then put yourself in the same boat as Yengeni for the same double standards.
I, for one - dont ridicule any Cultural beliefs, show me ONE instance where I have done so - I respect all beliefs and I expect some tollerance in return. But its more and more common to use the 'Cultural' excuse to justify crimes, and when the person gets busted - its a RACIST affair. Slaughtering an animal -humane or not- for rhe apeasement of of the Gods is not my affair, but slaughtering in a suburb a high population density is where I get annoyed. Even the Druids have de-marked sacrifice areas where their offerings are slaughtered. If Yengeni went to his ancestral grounds, ands slaughtered with the ancestral implements - THAT shows respect to people.

 

[xtermin8or]

Oh yeah? Here are the facts:
http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/fsp2005/profiles/39-nasa.html

As you'll see when analyzing the spreadsheet, the so-called "red-blooded white Americans" make up 76% of NASA's workforce and black comprise 11.71%. Even more telling is that on senior management level, whites make up 83% of the NASA workforce and blacks only 7%. Hmmmm....

My mistake I was misinformed by some websites and emails claiming different, perhaps this explains my misunderstanding of the situation

some of the falsities that have been promoted by the Indian media in the past, one of which is that 35% of Microsoft's work force and 32% of NASA personnel were of Indian-origin, though the figure stands between 5-10%, still a very high proportion given the total number of Indians in the US.

 

[RichardP]

What makes you think that these things you mentioned belong to or were created by whites, look at who works for your major cellphone companies, software developers, FFS even NASA has a minority of red-blooded white americans - this post shows your supremist thinking, or maybe you are just bitter because blacks in this country have all these things and still manage to maintain their cultural traditions

It is a known fact ( Apartheid proved it ) that white South Africans are largely intolerant of other cultures and beliefs, while it seems to have been dormant for a while, this intolerance is once again growing, I only feel sorry for your kids who must grow up in a household that teaches white supremacy and then go out into the real world, and like you realise that I am just a dumb fuck, and my boss is a black woman

No-where did I ever mention they were invented by whites... I am refering to Modern Luxuries and Tradional Culture. It has nothing to do with race.

 

[xtermin8or]

Just like a persons heritage, its not nice to belittle a persons roots. But Tibby, thats a double standard for you as you were attacking ME 'cos I lost faith in the SA Government. The original argument was about the 'race card' being played all the time. It has nothing to do with beliefs - its got to do with Ethics. Go Ahead, call me a racist, you know you want to - and then put yourself in the same boat as Yengeni for the same double standards.
I, for one - dont ridicule any Cultural beliefs, show me ONE instance where I have done so - I respect all beliefs and I expect some tollerance in return. But its more and more common to use the 'Cultural' excuse to justify crimes, and when the person gets busted - its a RACIST affair. Slaughtering an animal -humane or not- for rhe apeasement of of the Gods is not my affair, but slaughtering in a suburb a high population density is where I get annoyed. Even the Druids have de-marked sacrifice areas where their offerings are slaughtered. If Yengeni went to his ancestral grounds, ands slaughtered with the ancestral implements - THAT shows respect to people.

Where is his ancestral grounds, his ancestral ground is South Africa, must he now go to some rural village, to do his ritual, because " ja, it might upset the white baas "

 

[xtermin8or]

No-where did I ever mention they were invented by whites... I am refering to Modern Luxuries and Tradional Culture. It has nothing to do with race.

So in your opinion, you either enjoy modern luxuries or practice traditional culture, there is no middle ground, so then no Afrikaner in this country should complain that their culture is being sidelined by Government, if they have a job, use a cellphone, drive a car etc.