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That's a crap fanboy type argument -- I too like the things Android does well, but I honestly hate the UI lag issues.I like the way Android does stuff
Speed first, fancy effects later.
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The reason Android is laggy.
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reactor_sa
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So the summary is, iOS lags more than Android, but the user perceives Android to lag and iOS as fluid.
There you have it, google and apple both deceiving the users....
I must say, I havent noticed any lag (or rather perceived lag) on my Galaxy S2 but now I'll be subconciously looking for it. :/
There you have it, google and apple both deceiving the users....
I must say, I havent noticed any lag (or rather perceived lag) on my Galaxy S2 but now I'll be subconciously looking for it. :/
Anybody not admitting to this issue has either just become used it, or has never used one of the competitors products to understand the difference. How hard is it to understand that Google has acknowledged defects related to this problem I.e. ignoring the issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist?
Meatier hardware and less active processes does make the problem less evident.
We'll talk again once you have ICS -- i.e. there should be a substantial improvement with the UI, nothing to do with the hardware.So the summary is, iOS lags more than Android, but the user perceives Android to lag and iOS as fluid.
There you have it, google and apple both deceiving the users....
I must say, I havent noticed any lag (or rather perceived lag) on my Galaxy S2 but now I'll be subconciously looking for it. :/
And to answer your question, it's case of prioritization I.e. in the touchscreen paradigm the updating of the UI and tracking of touches always takes priority hence the experience is more fluid;
The hereditary Android design follows similar design concepts to PCs I.e. balancing workload of processes including the UI I.e. the UI is given no special priority privledges.
Releases like honeycomb and ICS are beginning to unravel those design flaws without compromising the app framework -- an admirable feat considering the goals are almost polar opposites.
sand_man
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Yip, quite damning. On the plus side the UI and overall experience can only improve form here on in.
I think to some degree it benefits manufacturers to start off from a modest base. Look at the iPhone 2G, sound foundation but basic at launch. They absolutely nailed the fundamentals and built it up from there. Now folk go ape when an iPhone can cut and paste possibly in the same way an Android tab owner would go ape if 1080p movies would play without the app force closing and/or lagging...
Actually I don't believe it's damning; quite the contrary, the more the problem is clearly understood the faster we'll see a solution -- up till Honeycomb and ICS the solution was to try to kill it only with meatier processors -- a combination approach will ultimately deliver the goods.
sand_man
Honorary Master
[)roi(];7359529 said:
I'm not sure a product performing like this one just did should have even seen the light of day. I've had little or no experience of Android other than that on my HTC Desire and I've been moderately impressed. The potential is just HUGE but seeing a product stagger and stammer through a review like this one just did reminds me of what a revelation iOS is.
Would be interesting to see the same review but running ICS. Chalk and cheese I suspect...
sand_man
Honorary Master
So the summary is, iOS lags more than Android, but the user perceives Android to lag and iOS as fluid.
There you have it, google and apple both deceiving the users....
I have a neat little tweak on my jailbroken iPad and iPhone called fakeclockup which effectively speeds up the animations built into iOS. The net result is stunning. I've seen similar results using MIUI custom rom on my Desire
Yes ICS from all reports had significantly improved on the problems; moderate lag is still however evident under certain conditions.
Thankfully in roads are being made; it was sad to see a iPhone 3GS performing more fluid than some of the meatier cores.
No doubt there is a lot of room for improvement.
Referring to the video that you posted:
Just remember that a version of Android can perform better on one device compared to the next.
Also that every manufacture has its own implementation of a certain version of android.
Example: out of the box the Archos G9 (OMAP 1GHz dual core; Honeycomb 3.2) plays 720p MKV files with no lag VS my Asus Transformer (1GHz tegra 2 ; Honeycomb 3.2) which did not, until I installed another player from the market.
This was an informative article. Keeping the fan-boy tendencies (I'm channeling the Chubby One) out of the arguments leads to a lot of education.
Lol...chubby one?
Ah, yes but Sense had added the missing hardware acceleration. So on an HTC you might not notice it!
[)roi(];7359297 said:
Again, most comments are from HTC users - whose phones have hardware acceleration, albeit limited. So its very likely they're telling the truth when they state they don't notice the issue.
The issue is still apparent -- even with the custom mods the problem is not completely resolved, hence when you compare to an competitor OS you will notice the lag; tracking lag issues are less apparently if you quickly swipe, as opposed to a slow drag e.g. Drag to refresh.
Similarly if you have a number of active processes you ultimately will reach a point where the lag becomes very apparent, so too with a complex web page.
Again a number of the stock issues can be fixed by custom roms, but this IMO is not a good comparison as the majority of Android users will not be technically proficient to do this & it's not required on the competitor OSs.