The Renate Barnard - SAPS - Discrimination Case

Barnard resigned from the police in June. She told reporters on Tuesday she was currently working in the private sector, doing forensic investigations.
Hearing about more and more senior , qualified officials leaving the service for the private sector.Police are being very short sighted with their application of AA
Is it any wonder communities are taking the law into their own hands when our entire justice system is turning into a total circus
 
It was only a matter of time before our courts lose their independence, they are slowly, but surely becoming puppets of government policy.
 
People need to realise who runs the con court

Up until now they have been quite independent, the NPA on the other hand is the political puppet. If the judiciary loses its independence then we are officially in a pseudo-democracy.
 
All these years in court and the legal team never challenged the legality of the Affirmative Action plan?? Seems like a bit of an own goal there IMO.

Agreed, what a flop by Solidarity.
 
Some of you sound just like the ANC, when the courts rules in "your favour" you applaud and then they don't it's because they're ANC puppets. Exactly as the ANC behaves when court rulings are not to their preference.
 
Some of you sound just like the ANC, when the courts rules in "your favour" you applaud and then they don't it's because they're ANC puppets. Exactly as the ANC behaves when court rulings are not to their preference.

OK, so why didn't they appoint her or someone else that qualifies but that is AA compliant in the post? The appointed no one else because there wasn't anyone, and they didn't appoint her because of her skin colour. Constitutional Court just ruled that racism is OK.
 
OK, so why didn't they appoint her or someone else that qualifies but that is AA compliant in the post? The appointed no one else because there wasn't anyone, and they didn't appoint her because of her skin colour. Constitutional Court just ruled that racism is OK.

She lost on a technicality not the merits of the case - as someone put it "she changed horses midstream" and the concourt said that can't be allowed. Otherwise she'd have won.
 
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Some of you sound just like the ANC, when the courts rules in "your favour" you applaud and then they don't it's because they're ANC puppets. Exactly as the ANC behaves when court rulings are not to their preference.

Agreed, when the courts smack down the ANC, as they often do, everyone cheers at how good the system is. Take this case as it is. It doesn't mean that the system is suddenly broken.
 
I have just read the main judgement of the case, and it didn't really deal with the issue at hand - whether she was unfairly discriminnated against. Right now I'm reading the judgements of Cameron and others who are dealing with the issue. But what I can tell you is that Barnard, although she would have still not won the case imo, messed up her case. You can't claim to be racially discriminated against yet you agree with EE plan of SAPS and the SAPS Instruction on Promotions which makes it clear that racial representitivity is a factor in promotions. She makes the matter even worse by approacing the UN and ILO on the very issues she didn't dispute in the Constitutional Court. Had she claimed that SAPS EE plan and Instruction were unconstitutional then I would have had symphathy for her. Her lawyers messed up her case, but she would have still lost nonetheless.

For those of you who comments without reading the judgements should be ashamed of yourselves. Here's the link to the case:
http://41.208.61.234/uhtbin/cgisirsi/20140903075040/SIRSI/0/520/J-CCT01-14
 
SOLIDARITY UNDETERRED BY BARNARD RULING

Losing the Renate Barnard case at the Constitutional Court will not deter Solidarity in other cases it is pursuing, CEO Dirk Hermann said on Tuesday.

Although it came as a shock, other cases the union undertook on behalf of its members belonging to racial minority groups -- for example involving correctional services -- would continue, he said.

He was speaking at a seminar regarding the Barnard case in Centurion.

Last Tuesday, in a majority judgment the Constitutional Court found the police commissioner rationally and lawfully implemented the police's affirmative action plan.

The ruling meant Solidarity's legal efforts to seek Barnard's promotion had come to an end in South Africa.

"If you were unsure about the legal framework of affirmative action before the judgement, you will be even more unsure now," Hermann said.

Dirk Groenewald, head of the union's Centre for Fair Labour Practices, said the judgement failed to provide a clear test for evaluating affirmative action disputes.

"The court specifically declined to clarify the issue of what a quota system would be."

Numerical quotas for affirmative action and absolute barriers to the employment or promotion of non-designated groups were not provided for in the Employment Equity Act.

"We feel the court did, however, clarify... that they (the courts) are entitled to scrutinise and interrogate affirmative action measures and how they are implemented."

This meant that previous arguments, that affirmative action as a policy issue could only be decided by the executive, had been crushed.

In terms of the judgment, therefore, affirmative action plans and how they were implemented could still be challenged in principle.

The Constitutional Court ruling established that affirmative action could not be used to promote people who were manifestly unsuitable, a point that could be cited in future cases.

Advocate Martin Brassey, who represented Solidarity in the Barnard case, said using hard quotas to achieve transformation without regard for individual human dignity, amounted to social engineering.

South Africa lacked a conceptual matrix to grapple with these tensions.

"As white people, we get overborne by guilt, as black people we get overborne by rage," Brassey said.

A liberal approach to affirmative action, taking race, gender, individual merit and the needs of an institution into account, would yield greater benefits to society than such social engineering.

In Barnard's case, however, it appeared the category of race was given preference over the other considerations combined.

While the judgment precluded Solidarity from taking further legal action, Brassey said the matter could be taken to the United Nations.

This was because South Africa had ratified a UN convention against race norming and social engineering.

It would be a "supreme irony", given the country's history, for South Africa to be referred to the UN for promoting race discrimination, Brassey said.


Source : Sapa /mjs/jje/th
Date : 09 Sep 2014 14:57
 
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