The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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LMAO.

It seems there are those in ANC who'd rather work with DA.

@TheChamp remember long ago, how you mentioned that there'll be a type of split/exodus in the DA over working with EFF? I'm starting to wonder if we won't see that **** in ANC over working with either EFF or DA...
"... any political arrangement must be guided by a principled commitment to deliver to the people,” the league said.

The ANC hasn't governed with a "principle to deliver to the people" for decades, so I'm not sure what fantasy they are trying to conjure up here. These veterans are still living pre-'94 where they thought Madiba was going to deliver us into Wakanda.
 
ANC up to their dirty tricks again.

The ANC in the Moses Mabhida Region, which is made up of Pietermaritzburg and surrounding towns, has made clear its support for a proposal to have uMngeni Municipality, which has Howick as its town, amalgamated with Mpofana (Mooi River) and Impendle municipalities.
That's what they do.
 
ANC up to their dirty tricks again.

The ANC in the Moses Mabhida Region, which is made up of Pietermaritzburg and surrounding towns, has made clear its support for a proposal to have uMngeni Municipality, which has Howick as its town, amalgamated with Mpofana (Mooi River) and Impendle municipalities.
Gerrymandering is an age old technique. Surely the way around this- is to just oppose the demarcation during the process?
 
How does that work?
Demarcation hearings by the demarcation board happen all the time.

Its a public participation process and anyone affected can submit their arguments. I'm sure that the DA with their expensive lawyers will do so.
 
Demarcation hearings by the demarcation board happen all the time.

Its a public participation process and anyone affected can submit their arguments. I'm sure that the DA with their expensive lawyers will do so.
and then what happens?
 
and then what happens?
In the SA context, as I remember it, the Nats did a great job of gerrymandering; even though they lacked a majority they fiddled the constituencies such that rural Afrikaans constituencies with say 10 000 voters had one MP whereas an urban constituency with 20 000 also only had one. Thus in their first election "win" they, the Nats, did not get the majority of votes but did get a majority of MPS's. The rest is history, noting that the apartheid loving Nats never had a huge majority in terms of actual numbers of votes. All pale of course and plenty room for correction in what I "remember" of this stuff.

Sutcliffe is/was the ANC's version as an architect of this gerrymandering; IMHO of course.
 
The rest is history, noting that the apartheid loving Nats never had a huge majority in terms of actual numbers of votes.

Where did the votes go to then? The PFP (which wanted reform) led by Helen Suzmann had very little support yet a lot of people somehow supported Suzmann these days but nobody supported NP.

Unless Nats somehow rigged the elections, evidence suggests they dominated and the liberal opposition had very little support. The only party under Apartheid that gave the Nats some challenge was the CP which believed they were too moderate when they eventually realized they had to let go of some aspects of Apartheid.
 
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Where did the votes go to then? The PFP (which wanted reform) led by Helen Suzmann had very little support yet a lot of people somehow supported Suzmann these days but nobody supported NP.

Unless Nats somehow rigged the elections, evidence suggests they dominated and the liberal opposition had very little support. The only party under Apartheid that gave the Nats some challenge was the CP which believed they were too moderate when they eventually realized they had to let go of some aspects of Apartheid.
United Party or SA Party - Jan Smuts', later de Villiers Graaf's lot.
 
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