The SA Politics Thread Part 3

[ghaye]

You obviously don't remember correctly, there are many matric certificate out there from the good old days with an F on them, and an F means 30 to 39%.

Do you remember something called an S pass and an M or exemption pass?

That is not a matric certificate. It's a Std 10 certificate.

 

[TheChamp]

Do you have a BA? If you do apparently the ability to read is not a requirement.

No I don't have a BA, I just thought maybe you know the answer to the question you were asking me, it's fine if you don't.

 

[ghaye]

No I don't have a BA, I just thought maybe you know the answer to the question you were asking me, it's fine if you don't.

I posted it.All you have to do is read it. I really can't do more for you here. Maybe ask an adult for help?

 

[TheChamp]

That is not a matric certificate. It's a Std 10 certificate.

And you believe I cannot tell the difference between a grade 10 certificate and a matric certificate?

 

[ghaye]

And you believe I cannot tell the difference between a grade 10 certificate and a matric certificate?

Not Grade 10, Std 10. Not the same thing.

 

[TheChamp]

Not Grade 10, Std 10. Not the same thing.

Oh s***, standard 10 and matric is the same thing.

 

[ghaye]

Oh s***, standard 10 and matric is the same thing.

No it is not. Matic is a was also called a Varsity pass. Std 10 did not get you into uni.

 

[CTBP]

No it is not. Matic is a was also called a Varsity pass. Std 10 did not get you into uni.

Standard 10 was definitely matric when I was in school.

We are talking mid to late 90's here.

 

[TheChamp]

Here is it, if you zoom in on the unfortunate soul whose certificate was posted on Twitter, you can clearly see there is a F symbol on the certificate, contrary to reminiscing of the high standards from the good old days.

 

[TheChamp]

No it is not. Matic is a was also called a Varsity pass. Std 10 did not get you into uni.

Yeah, I really don't have time for this.

 

[ghaye]

Yeah, I really don't have time for this.

After you have highlighted the MATRIC bit on that certificate we can move on.

 

[ghaye]

Standard 10 was definitely matric when I was in school.

We are talking mid to late 90's here.

Yes, everybody called Std 10 matric. But to matriculate actually meant passing Std 10 with university exemption. And that was not even just restricted to m,arkes. If you had the wrong subject choice you also would not get exemption.

 

[TheChamp]

After you have highlighted the MATRIC bit on that certificate we can move on.

You can remain stuck if you want to, your problem, not mine.

 

[ghaye]

You can remain stuck if you want to, your problem, not mine.

I'm not the one that has the wrong end of the stick. Look carefully at what you're holding, it may turn out to be a real snake.

 

[TheChamp]

Yes, everybody called Std 10 matric. But to matriculate actually meant passing Std 10 with university exemption. And that was not even just restricted to m,arkes. If you had the wrong subject choice you also would not get exemption.

No, there has always been two passes, the one that gets you into university, M or exemption pass and the one that did not get you into university but you could still go to technical colleges etc, it was called the S pass.

It's really not that complicated.

 

[ghaye]

No, there has always been two passes, the one that gets you into university, M or exemption pass and the one that did not get you into university but you could still go to technical colleges etc, it was called the S pass.

It's really not that complicated.

Would that M perhaps come from Matric?

 

[Nom Chompsky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674375521138884608

 

[TheChamp]

After you have highlighted the MATRIC bit on that certificate we can move on.

Matric certificate has always been written senior certificate, and I am talking about the good old days before the ANC took over, there were not written matric or standard 10.

But do show me one that was written matric, there might have been in 1960.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Google says NO

Bachelor’s Degree Pass Level​

A Bachelor’s Degree Pass is the highest Matric pass level you can get. This pass level will allow you to further your studies at university, given that you meet all the other university entry requirements. In order to obtain this pass, you must have the following minimum marks:

• 40% for your Home Language
• 50% for four (4) other High Credit Subjects
• 30% for two (2) other subjects

Meeting these requirements will give you a Bachelor’s Degree Pass level and a minimum APS of 23.

But even a Bachelors pass wont get you into Uni because spaces are competitive. The vast majority of those in Uni would have aggregates of over 60%.

Many people with Bachelors passes are also in technical colleges because they did not make the cut.

 

[TheChamp]

Would that M perhaps come from Matric?

It doesn't matter where it comes from, there were two matric passes, M and S, M took you to university and S did not, M had a higher requirement and S was much lower, that's where you were most likely to find an F on the certificate which meant 30%.

But you could still get an M pass with an F on your certificate and you could still study at a university.

Fact is they were both matric passes and they happened in the good old days, anything else is splitting hairs.