The SA Politics Thread Part 3

Status
Not open for further replies.
Vrotappel said:
The moonshot pact is a tiny little bit of hope for SA. Why do you hate it so much?

Honest answer please.
Click to expand...
It's called democracy, a freedom to choose whoever you like, I don't have to like the Moonshot just because Vrotappel likes it, probably something you still find foreign even after all this years.
 
Inertia said:
Let's say the moonshot pact, with all its good intentions, fails to get 50% + 1 at the polls. The ANC then threatens to govern with the EFF. Would the moonshotters rather sit back and watch Koeberg explode because the DA signed an agreement not to make a deal with the ANC? It seems like a silly condition to make, and feels like it's just being used as political leverage.
Click to expand...

The DA will then get associated with the failings of the ANC. I can't see any positive outcome from a grand coalition. The dominant coalition partner will always claim credit for anything and blame failures on the junior/minority partner. I vote for the opposition because I want the ANC removed from the levers of power, not to extend their rule.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
The DA will then get associated with the failings of the ANC. I can't see any positive outcome from a grand coalition. The dominant coalition partner will always claim credit for anything and blame failures on the junior/minority partner. I vote for the opposition because I want the ANC removed from the levers of power, not to extend their rule.
Click to expand...
You have explained your wants and needs, but what about the reality of a post-2024 election national coalition between ANC and EFF?
 
TheChamp said:
It's called democracy, a freedom to choose whoever you like, I don't have to like the Moonshot just because Vrotappel likes it, probably something you still find foreign even after all this years.
Click to expand...
Sometimes it is not about what you like but what about is the best for SA.
 
Inertia said:
Let's say the moonshot pact, with all its good intentions, fails to get 50% + 1 at the polls. The ANC then threatens to govern with the EFF. Would the moonshotters rather sit back and watch Koeberg explode because the DA signed an agreement not to make a deal with the ANC? It seems like a silly condition to make, and feels like it's just being used as political leverage.
Click to expand...

So a vote for the DA would be a vote for the ANC

You okes :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 
TheChamp said:
It's called democracy, a freedom to choose whoever you like, I don't have to like the Moonshot just because Vrotappel likes it, probably something you still find foreign even after all this years.
Click to expand...
Getting the government you deserve. Forrest Gump applicable; stupid is as stupid does.
 
From today's ST:

gdhdh.jpg

ASA and VF+ demanding DA sign a declaration to not work with ANC.
ISANCO (not sure who they are) has joined Moonshot.
 
PrimeSteak said:
From today's ST:

gdhdh.jpg

ASA and VF+ demanding DA sign a declaration to not work with ANC.
ISANCO (not sure who they are) has joined Moonshot.
Click to expand...
SANCO's breakaway, they got 0.2% in 2021. It is a very pleasant surprise that the ACDP is not part of the Moonshot, I thought they were a very reliable DA partner just like the Freedom Front, they hardly complain about anything.
 
Last edited:
TheChamp said:
SANCO's breakaway, they got 0.2% in 2021. It is a very pleasant surprise that the ACDP is not part of the Moonshot, I thought they were Avery reliable DA partner just like the Freedom Front, they hardly complain about anything.
Click to expand...
They will come around eventually. I think they vote quite similarly to the DA in the National Assembly and are not known to give the DA any headaches.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
They will come around eventually. I think they vote quite similarly to the DA in the National Assembly and are not known to give the DA any headaches.
Click to expand...
Exactly, that's why I am surprised, but Meshoe being the dictator type of a leader who probably think he was anointed for the position could be having some insecurities.

But I guess they can still vote with the Moonshot from outside.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Can someone who can understand Afrikaans translate the gist of the story? Obviously it's do with racism allegations...are they claiming Lesufi is a racist? That wouldn't surprise me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1690646883423674368
Click to expand...
Panyaza must be giving the right wingers endless chest pains, maybe a united front between the right wingers, DA, ActionSA and EFF has the best chance at making him bothered, they must just unite and face him like men.
 
Last edited:
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Can someone who can understand Afrikaans translate the gist of the story? Obviously it's do with racism allegations...are they claiming Lesufi is a racist? That wouldn't surprise me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1690646883423674368
Click to expand...
Essentially the family of a boy who was publically and falsely accused of racism by Lesufi says their lives got destroyed because of him.

It has to do with what happened at Jan Viljoen High School in Randfontein.

Apparently, Rocco (the oke on the front page) was Deputy Head Boy. On that day (11/02/2022), a group of black learners blasted 'Kill the Boer' and sang along on school grounds.
Later he tried to stop a fight between two boys, one was black, the other white. Then it became a racial thing. Rocco alleges that the white boys were locked in a classroom, later when they left the classroom, the black learners stormed them from all sides.

In the days that followed, there were posters at the school saying **** like "Rocco must fall", "Rocco you roast pig", etc. Social media threats got so out of hand, that Rocco and his sister were removed from the school by their parents. Then Our Glorious Leader Lesufi decided to fan the flames.

Rocco lost his bursary, his mom who worked at the school lost her job, and his little brother is scared to be seen with him. To this day, Rocco is hesitant to go outside and has become extremely shy. The family had to move.

P.S. Some of the black kids at the school were EFF members according to a report by Mike Bolhuis (I assume the kids who blasted "Kill the Boer").

The article:
www.netwerk24.com

‘Lesufi se vals ras-klag het ons lewe verwoes’ | Netwerk24

’n Wes-Randse gesin sê hul wêreld het in duie gestort nadat Panyaza Lesufi, Gautengse premier, hulle as rassiste gebrandmerk het.
www.netwerk24.com www.netwerk24.com
 
PrimeSteak said:
Essentially the family of a boy who was publically and falsely accused of racism by Lesufi says their lives got destroyed because of him.

It has to do with what happened at Jan Viljoen High School in Randfontein.

Apparently, Rocco (the oke on the front page) was Deputy Head Boy. On that day (11/02/2022), a group of black learners blasted 'Kill the Boer' and sang along on school grounds.
Later he tried to stop a fight between two boys, one was black, the other white. Then it became a racial thing. Rocco alleges that the white boys were locked in a classroom, later when they left the classroom, the black learners stormed them from all sides.

In the days that followed, there were posters at the school saying **** like "Rocco must fall", "Rocco you roast pig", etc. Social media threats got so out of hand, that Rocco and his sister were removed from the school by their parents. Then Our Glorious Leader Lesufi decided to fan the flames.

Rocco lost his bursary, his mom who worked at the school lost her job, and his little brother is scared to be seen with him. To this day, Rocco is hesitant to go outside and has become extremely shy. The family had to move.

P.S. Some of the black kids at the school were EFF members according to a report by Mike Bolhuis (I assume the kids who blasted "Kill the Boer").

The article:
www.netwerk24.com

‘Lesufi se vals ras-klag het ons lewe verwoes’ | Netwerk24

’n Wes-Randse gesin sê hul wêreld het in duie gestort nadat Panyaza Lesufi, Gautengse premier, hulle as rassiste gebrandmerk het.
www.netwerk24.com www.netwerk24.com
Click to expand...
This is the perfect example of what happens in our society if you're even falsely accused of racism. Your life is destroyed, period.
 
TheChamp said:
It is a very pleasant surprise that the ACDP is not part of the Moonshot, I thought they were a very reliable DA partner just like the Freedom Front, they hardly complain about anything.
Click to expand...
The ACDP went off the rails and accused the Moonshot of being WEF puppets.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X