The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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ToxicBunny said:
Our schools should teach about religion, and as many of them as possible, but they should not have religion as part of their ethos, or approach to education or anything of the sort. The choice of a religion to expose a child to must be the parents.
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It depends on what kind of schools we chatting about here.

If it's a school that has religion explicitly built into its culture and everything (Christian or Muslim), then they should be left alone, since it was the parents and/or kids' choice to go there.

If it's a standard secular school, however, no religion should be forced on anyone.
The best option would be the following, I'll use my primary school experience as an example:

When it's weekly assembly, have a little Christian sermon for most of the kids (since most of them would be Christian in some way shape or form), and keep the other kids who aren't, nearby in the foyer, let them do homework/read, etc until the sermon is finished and bring them back in when the sermon is done. And that's where religion starts and ends in the school (except when learning about them of course in LO or something).
 
PrimeSteak said:
It depends on what kind of schools we chatting about here.

If it's a school that has religion explicitly built into its culture and everything (Christian or Muslim), then they should be left alone, since it was the parents and/or kids' choice to go there.

If it's a standard secular school, however, no religion should be forced on anyone.
The best option would be the following, I'll use my primary school experience as an example:

When it's weekly assembly, have a little Christian sermon for most of the kids (since most of them would be Christian in some way shape or form), and keep the other kids who aren't, nearby in the foyer, let them do homework/read, etc until the sermon is finished and bring them back in when the sermon is done. And that's where religion starts and ends in the school (except when learning about them of course in LO or something).
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Of course there is nuance to the stance.

A private school can have religion built into its core without a doubt... but government public schools need to be secular in my opinion.
 
sefeddt said:
Flip flopping, dithering squirrel's achievement's not instilling business confidence.
(paywalled)
www.businesslive.co.za

Cyril Ramaphosa said to have lost support of business

‘Ramaphosa is not considered a positive leader by financial markets,’ BCA Research strategist Matt Gertken says
www.businesslive.co.za www.businesslive.co.za
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Not paywalled version.

www.news24.com

Ramaphosa loses confidence of SA business over policy missteps | Business

Economic stagnation spawned by record daily power outages, rampant crime, disintegrating infrastructure and foreign policy missteps is leading investors to exit SA.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

He oversees a bloated executive that includes several ministers who've proven inept or corrupt, but are retained because of their political sway; he consults endlessly on policies, many of which are misguided or never implemented, and fails to act decisively; and he's placed South Africa's trade relations with the US and European Union at risk by forging closer ties with Russia and refusing to condemn its invasion of Ukraine.
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Shame, the business executives should have consulted the MyBB news & current affairs users and we would've told them Ramaphoria is nonsense. How many times do you need to be told that the ANC is unreformable?
 
TheChamp said:
What's happening here? Tau was fired ages ago by ActionSA why did this Hermann have to dig that up? Or is it Mashaba who started it?
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Mashaba has a God complex. His only real political strength seems to be badmouthing his coalition partners and personality clashes with any member of his own party that rises above grassroots level.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
Of course there is nuance to the stance.

A private school can have religion built into its core without a doubt... but government public schools need to be secular in my opinion.
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They should divide private schools into Christian schools, Muslim schools, Hindu schools, Buddhists schools and name it as per religion so that no one else can enter.

Further division should be Christian-Whites, Christian-Blacks, Muslim-Indians, Muslim-Black schools and so on..

Perfect way to integrate society.
 
PrimeSteak said:
When it's weekly assembly, have a little Christian sermon for most of the kids (since most of them would be Christian in some way shape or form), and keep the other kids who aren't, nearby in the foyer, let them do homework/read, etc until the sermon is finished and bring them back in when the sermon is done. And that's where religion starts and ends in the school (except when learning about them of course in LO or something).
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Was much the same in my day, but it was a horrible solution then, and would be even worse now.

Basically it was "Jews, please wait outside."

No we have Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Rastafarians, Atheists - in many schools Christians would be in the minority.

Religion has no place in a school assembly, even less so in a manner in which religious divisions are affirmed.
 
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