The SA Politics Thread Part 6

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'Oxford Economics sees ex-President Jacob Zuma’s uMkhonto we Sizwe (MK) party reduced to a small caucus in the KZN provincial assembly, “soon disappearing from the national conversation.”'

Those smarta##es in Oxford, were off the mark.
When infighting starts that might happen.
There might be lots of violence for positions like pre1994.
 
When infighting starts that might happen.
There might be lots of violence for positions like pre1994.
They are the largest party in KZN at the moment. Equalling just short of the other 3 runners up combined- ANC+IFP+DA.

Noone expected this. We better hold our breaths for what's to come tomorrow.
 
Ubaba Zuma had the most passive aggressive speech ever at the IEC center :ROFL: He's basically threatening to unleash violence if they announce the results today. All about that thugliFe:cool::cool:

*grabs popcorn and chilli biltong*
Please refer to Zuma in the correct term. Useless ****.
 
Ubaba Zuma had the most passive aggressive speech ever at the IEC center :ROFL: He's basically threatening to unleash violence if they announce the results today. All about that thugliFe:cool::cool:

*grabs popcorn and chilli biltong*
And so he should, he is after all a man of honour, integrity and wisdom....
 
Zuma's people will likely be operating from the opposition benches.

They will be kinda toothless without a majority.
 
Out of curiosity, what happens if a coalition gets more than 50% and starts a government, but then infighting means nothing gets done. Does it just break up and another coalition is made? Are ministers fired and new ones put in their place, again and again?
 
Zuma's people will likely be operating from the opposition benches.

They will be kinda toothless without a majority.

There's also a high likelihood, given his age, that he will pop off in the next 5 years, which will make the MK even more disorganised than it is already.
 
Out of curiosity, what happens if a coalition gets more than 50% and starts a government, but then infighting means nothing gets done. Does it just break up and another coalition is made? Are ministers fired and new ones put in their place, again and again?
President has executive authority. If a coalition partner is unhappy they can bring up a motion of no confidence.
 
Steenhuisen says they will approach the talks with "cool heads and an open mind."

"For the Democratic Alliance, burying our heads in the sand while South Africa faces its greatest threat since the dawn of democracy, is not an option," says Steenhuisen.
"Because, before all else, we are patriotic South Africans who love this country. That is why we will not recoil from complexity or difficult decisions."

Steenhuisen: "In all that we do, we will be guided by the DA's fundamental commitment to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law, promoting nonracialism, effecting clean, accountable government with zero tolerance for corruption, and building a social market economy that creates jobs."

This team will report back to Steenhuisen and the FedEx before the party decides.
He says the DA will always put the people of SA first.

Ivan Meyer, Siviwe Gwarube, Alan Winde, Tony Leon, Ryan Coetzee and Helen Zille will facilitate the DA's talks with other parties.

The DA's FedEx adopted a resolution for the DA to talk with other parties upholding the Constitution.
 
this is a "Zuma says" party whose sole purpose is revenge. Without a democratic internal process to elect leadership, and with Zuma having the final say in everything, infighting and jostling for positions is inevitable and the party will tear itself apart...

And on Monday 3 June, this kicks off:

 
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