The SA Politics Thread Part 6

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TheChamp said:
You are very right, but we now have proof that the EFF is going nowhere slowly, the MK looks scary because it just started and jumped to third position but they also have a ceiling.

The bottom line in this election is still the fact that the ANC is failing to get their supporters to go out and vote, they probably think they are punishing it but all they do is to open the door wide for the MK. Their disgruntled voters are still there, they did note vote for the DA, they did not vote for the EFF, they abstained.

My feeling is that the majority of the country is sober enough to see Zuma for what he is, so he is still by and large, MK is stil by and large a KZN party as the results show, so I don't think people will fall for whatever he is selling, but not voting is equivalent to evil triumphing when good men do nothing.
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I think they will self implode once uBaba kicks the bucket.

Too many fighting for scraps. Most of their politicians are gratuity loyalists. They already on unstable grounds and looks like uBaba was expecting more- as crazy as that sounds. So expect some infighting.
 
I've already read on news24 that senior ANC members are in talks with MK and EFF.

Do you honestly think a party like the ANC, corrupt and racist to the core is going to work with the DA? Are you on drugs?
 
DentistGuy said:
I think they will self implode once uBaba kicks the bucket.

Too many fighting for scraps. Most of their politicians are gratuity loyalists. They already on unstable grounds and looks like uBaba was expecting more- as crazy as that sounds. So expect some infighting.
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One thing I trust Zuma with is his ability to control his cult , he can fire all his leadership and put all his family members there and his supporters will find a way to work around that and still vote for him, Malama learnt well from the man.

So unfortunately the implosion is only going to happen once he kicks the bucket, and we know the type have a tendency of annoying everyone by living forever.
 
ToxicBunny said:
It definitely should be a concern if you deploy a few thousand heavily armed and trained individuals to quell potential violence into an area only to find a good chunk of them are loyal to the group and person you're trying to quell.

I think a state of emergency would ultimately play into Jacob's hands and prove what he is saying to the masses and backfire badly.
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If **** starts going down there might not be an alternative - there are areas that will vigorously defend themselves but the vast majority will be at the mercy of mobs.
 
slimeball said:
I've already read on news24 that senior ANC members are in talks with MK and EFF.

Do you honestly think a party like the ANC, corrupt and racist to the core is going to work with the DA? Are you on drugs?
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They are also in talks with the DA. People will be talking to everyone else- trying to find the best terms.

Business will also have a say.
 
TheChamp said:
To be honest, they are very aligned in policies and that makes the most sense, it is Juju's tantrums that I am not sure we can afford at National level.
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Juju would do well to recognize opportunity to grow up. He is not a toddler anymore. Earlier he realizes that, the better it would be for him and everyone.
 
DentistGuy said:
As much as the DA would like to group the EFF and MK in the conniving, dangerous black people category- who would be in a 'Doomsday coalition'- I personally don't see them able to work together.

MK is more cult of Zuma, Zulu, older comrades. EFF is younger, broader appeal (heck they even run the SRC of some Western Cape Uni's) with the cult of Malema. I think Malema will do better in future elections as his electorate matures.

Lots of varsity students are in the middle of writing exams and weren't bothered to vote, or aren't registered in the right VD. Many of them are EFF voters. Some of those young EFF voters will also become outspoken, qualified young politicians who will strengthen the EFF- so I wouldn't be too worried if was Malema.
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I disagree. Students got nothing to loose. As soon as they become middle class they have everything to loose.
 
DentistGuy said:
Many KZN ANC councillors are going to see how well the MK did in their wards and will defect in the LGE to save their jobs.

This will further strengthen uBaba in the short term. uBaba is back- a masterclass in African politics- give him that. Unhinged, corrupt, probably senile but you have to admire his political capabilities. After all the sh*t he caused in SA- it seems Zuma will go to the grave having the last laugh.

It's not only tribalism- if that was the case than the IFP which is the most tribalistic party in KZN would have faired better. It's the Zuma effect on the population there. Of course, there are shady characters in the background- but they also needed Zuma.
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a peculiar penguin, that one.
a wolf in sheeps clothing - a master of the art of disguise.

a warmer, more inviting and affable person would be difficult to meet.
the persona he presents is one of design and purpose, not nature !
 
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