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R13... said:
Not sure I'd put too much stock in internal polls.
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The poll in the link is the SRF poll from a while ago.

If the DA is polling at 25% atm, it's a good sign that things are improving for them. I mean they never polled above 20 - 21 % in the run-up to 2019. But now they're polled at 25%.
 
R13... said:
Not sure I'd put too much stock in internal polls.
The DA lost a lot of support following the fallout with Mashaba and a lot of that can be attributed to Zille.
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Cool why I asked. Now, is the view that she is damaging the party perception or is there a base to back it up. Former is an IMO and must be stated as such, the other solid.
 
wingnut771 said:
Like I asked earlier, is that a good enough reason to throw the baby out with the bath water?
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What do you mean? You're talking as if I despise her, I may not be her biggest fan and she is right a lot of the time.

But her execution and the way she says/does things sometimes bite her in the ass and of course by extension the DA. Since it gives COPE: DA and the usual "DA BAD" crowd ammo...
 
TheChamp said:
We do agree on a lot of things, I am sure our engagement on this forum would prove that, you just struggle to deal with the ones we don't agree on.
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Perhaps. But you show support for ANC and some of their members; whilst I have a complete disdain for anything to do with the Great Liberation movement. So, I cannot look at any of their members and see any good. There are no good ANC members - there is no "good" side to the ANC.

Before you try prove me wrong, don't. We won't agree on that.
 
Priapus said:
I don't get this. How come, within a couple weeks, the new administration can start doing stuff like this?

What were these workers doing before?
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I think it can be done if there is any will from the council to actually do what they're supposed to...
 
R13... said:
Not sure I'd put too much stock in internal polls.
The DA lost a lot of support following the fallout with Mashaba and a lot of that can be attributed to Zille.
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You were aware of the direction Mashaba wanted to take the party, hint, look at who he was pushing for as candidates to be nominated to make the party more "representative"
 
sefeddt said:
Cool why I asked. Now, is the view that she is damaging the party perception or is there a base to back it up. Former is an IMO and must be stated as such, the other solid.
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As said in my post, they lost a lot of seats in the local government elections and those can be almost directly attributed to her "work" on witch hunting Maimane which led to the fallout with Mashaba. As you know Mashaba started ASA who managed to steal a not insignificant portion of the DA's vote.

The DA have over the last few years failed to take advantage of the ANC's failures and their scale up to industrial scale corruption. That is because they were always infighting around every election time. The last round of infighting is mostly Zille.
 
PrimeSteak said:
What do you mean? You're talking as if I despise her, I may not be her biggest fan and she is right a lot of the time.

But her execution and the way she says/does things sometimes bite her in the ass and of course by extension the DA. Since it gives COPE: DA and the usual "DA BAD" crowd ammo...
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I'm saying COPE: DA is an example of throwing out the baby with the bath water. Hurt feelings because of her tact so new parties are formed and snowflake voters vote for them instead of focusing on what really matters, good governance, and sticking with the DA come hell or high water.
 
Priapus said:
I don't get this. How come, within a couple weeks, the new administration can start doing stuff like this?

What were these workers doing before?
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Let's be honest, the only difference is that you see a picture of something happening, we should move away from the mentality that nothing is being done because there is no picture on Twitter or similarly to overstate what is actually happening because of a picture.

I am sure the workers were always there doing their jobs, pity they did not get a picture to prove it.
 
TheChamp said:
Let's be honest, the only difference is that you see a picture of something happening, we should move away from the mentality that nothing is being done because there is no picture on Twitter or similarly to overstate what is actually happening because of a picture.

I am sure the workers were always there doing their jobs, pity they did not get a picture to prove it.
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If they were; then why do the roads look like that?
 
R13... said:
As said in my post, they lost a lot of seats in the local government elections and those can be almost directly attributed to her "work" on witch hunting Maimane which led to the fallout with Mashaba. As you know Mashaba started ASA who managed to steal a not insignificant portion of the DA's vote.

The DA have over the last few years failed to take advantage of the ANC's failures and their scale up to industrial scale corruption. That is because they were always infighting around every election time. The last round of infighting is mostly Zille.
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All caused by snowflakes.
 
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