The soccer technology conundrum

[Dolby]

How many major incidents of cheating occured in this WC, out of interest?

Germany - England (disallowed goal)
Ghana - Uraguay (volleyball)
South Africa - Uruguay (offside, penalty)

What happened with Mexico? Also Suarez and Uruguay?

 

[Nuxxy]

Argentina vs Mexico, Tevez' goal was clearly offside.

What bothered me about the that (ARG vs MEX) incident and the England/Germany one was FIFA's attitude to it. They wanted to ban replays on the big screens so that the terrible decision wouldn't be replayed? That's hardly a solution!

When it comes to the tech, how about including a material in the ball construction that shows up differently in other light wavelengths, say ultraviolet? Then you have fixed position cameras that would then be able to track the ball position. I'm sure you could right software to translate that into knowing whether the ball passed the line.

 

[Jola]

How many major incidents of cheating occured in this WC, out of interest?

Germany - England (disallowed goal)
Ghana - Uraguay (volleyball)
South Africa - Uruguay (offside, penalty)

What happened with Mexico? Also Suarez and Uruguay?

Most of those are errors (which could have been avoided by using video).

Suarez was cheating - there is a difference, you know.

 

[Joy-Energiser]

Stopping a game for 30 seconds to review what the ref is doing completely unacceptable. The game must flow... TMO and 3rd umpire in cricket have slowed the games down considerably. Cricket is ok because the point of review is between deliveries and the ball goes dead. Not one person who says the game should be reviewed can say when to perform the review without causing a disadvantage of some sort. I rather have a few bad decision happen once in a while (its not every game that a bad decision happens), than have the game stop consistently. Call me a retarded soccer fan all you like, but when this world cup is over all the fools crying for technology wont be watching the game and the usuals will be stuck with a very different (and by different i also imply worse) game that they used to enjoy.

The ref has full right to show a player a yellow card for simulation, so if he feels he is being deceived he should book him and the do enforce this at Club level.

Yea, its not sportsman like but then neither is not walking when you know you edged it. Or still appealing when you know its hit the ground.... Only now have we seen players start getting honest with the boundary rope, because they rather not waste the time with the review.

Cricket definitely needs 3rd umpire for run outs and boundaries, but even for LBW's i think they are taking it way too far... Rugby has quite a few close calls where you cant see if the dude has put the ball over line becuase theres 20 people ontop of him, but soccer barely has the need for tech, and tech that stops the games for reviews will be way worse for the game than not having it.

Once again you are putting preference on a petty thing such as "Flow of the Game" over corrent game breaking decisions,IE offside goals,faking dives in the penalty box,Ball rebounds on crossbar over goal line.

It can work just like in rubgy, they only analyze video replay when requested by the ref, It will happen twice a game on average.
You can't honestly say that will have a negetive affect on the game ?

Bad decisions are not happening "once in a while", every game I have watched there have been dubious calls by the ref.EVERY SINGLE GAME THE REF MAKES INCORRECT DECISIONS.

The thing is, the REF cannot always see exactly what is happening, its humanly impossible to be correct all the time, FIFA's pride(or corruption) is preventing correct decisions from taking place.
Let me not get started on FIFa banning replays on the screen(are they like the mafia of soccer?)It just makes me think that Fifa are involved in match fixing when they so blatently refuse technology assistance.

Yes you are right, players are honest in cricket now, take a wild guess why.Soccer players will also get honest, real quick if TMO decisions and post match citings were in effect like it was in rugby.

But untill then, let the deception and corruption run rife.

 

[phiber]

Once again you are putting preference on a petty thing such as "Flow of the Game" over corrent game breaking decisions,IE offside goals,faking dives in the penalty box,Ball rebounds on crossbar over goal line.

It can work just like in rubgy, they only analyze video replay when requested by the ref, It will happen twice a game on average.
You can't honestly say that will have a negetive affect on the game ?

Bad decisions are not happening "once in a while", every game I have watched there have been dubious calls by the ref.EVERY SINGLE GAME THE REF MAKES INCORRECT DECISIONS.

The thing is, the REF cannot always see exactly what is happening, its humanly impossible to be correct all the time, FIFA's pride(or corruption) is preventing correct decisions from taking place.
Let me not get started on FIFa banning replays on the screen(are they like the mafia of soccer?)It just makes me think that Fifa are involved in match fixing when they so blatently refuse technology assistance.

Yes you are right, players are honest in cricket now, take a wild guess why.Soccer players will also get honest, real quick if TMO decisions and post match citings were in effect like it was in rugby.

But untill then, let the deception and corruption run rife.

Honest like Bakkies? That oke gets citied every 3 games he plays. I am pretty sure he has been suspended for longer than he has been eligible to play this season....

Anyways, soccer is about flow as it keeps the momentum and TV refs will not be a part of the near future as it will spoil the game.