The Syrian Conflict Thread

Interesting, saudis are trying to bribe russia with 15bl to drop assad LOL

Times that 100 and maybe the russians would consider it. Chump change for russia.
 
Car Bomb Explosion kills 22 in Beiruit Hezbollah Bastion

Lebanon was holding a day of mourning Friday after a car bomb killed at least 22 people in a Beirut stronghold of Shiite group Hezbollah, which backs Syria's embattled president.

A previously unknown group, apparently a Syrian rebel cell, said it carried out Thursday's attack in the densely populated southern suburbs of Beirut, between Bir al-Abed and Rweiss, districts where Hezbollah security is normally tight.

Police said the death toll had climbed to at least 22, while the Red Cross said 325 people were wounded.

The National News Agency reported that seven people, including a man and his three children, were missing.

On Friday morning, investigators were combing the scene for clues, as Hezbollah security personnel sealed off the area, an AFP photographer reported. Group members in civilian clothes stopped and searched cars in the southern suburbs.

The explosion, reminiscent of the frequent attacks during Lebanon's 1975-1990 civil war, sent a plume of black smoke into the Mediterranean sky, caused heavy damage to buildings and set several cars ablaze.

Leaders from across the political spectrum condemned the bombing, and a day of mourning was declared.

President Michel Sleiman said the "terrorist" bombing targeted all Lebanese, not just Hezbollah.

Former prime minister Saad Hariri, a Sunni leader and staunch critic of Hezbollah, said the attack was "part of a vicious terrorist scheme" targeting Lebanon.

UN chief Ban Ki-moon urged Lebanon's fractious political scene to stay united, in a statement that condemned the bombing as "completely unacceptable".

"During this period of heightened tensions, the secretary general urges all Lebanese to remain united, to rally around their state institutions and to focus on safeguarding Lebanon's security and stability," the statement said.

And the UN Security Council "strongly condemned the terrorist attack."

It called for "all Lebanese people to preserve national unity in the face of attempts to undermine the country's stability" and urged all parties "to refrain from any involvement in the Syrian crisis."

The blast came a day after Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said his militant group was taking steps to ensure the security of the southern suburbs, after a July 9 car bomb in Bir al-Abed wounded dozens.

A witness told a Lebanese television channel he saw a van drive past three times before its driver found a parking spot where he set off the bomb.

The explosion had the impact of an "earthquake," another witness said.

Hezbollah is a key supporter of President Bashar al-Assad and has sent fighters across the border this year to bolster government forces, which have been battling a deadly anti-regime revolt since March 2011.

The movement has become a hated foe of Syria's rebels, most of whom are Sunnis, while Assad is a member of the Alawite offshoot of Shiite Islam.

An online video surfaced shortly after the attack showing three masked men, two of them holding rifles, in front of a white flag inscribed with the Islamic profession of faith.

"You, the pig Hassan Nasrallah, we send you our second powerful message because you haven't understood yet," said one member of the group calling itself the Battalion of Aisha, the Muslim Prophet Mohammed's favourite wife.

Thursday's blast comes six weeks after a car bomb attack in the same area wounded more than 50 people.

Another little-known Syrian rebel group, the Special Forces 313 Brigade, claimed that attack and said it was in revenge for Hezbollah fighting alongside the Assad regime. The mainstream rebel Free Syrian Army condemned the action.

Lebanon is deeply divided into supporters and opponents of the regime in neighbouring Syria.

Sectarian tensions in Lebanon, which was dominated militarily and politically by Damascus for three decades until 2005, have soared as the Syrian conflict has raged on.

Nasrallah is scheduled to speak on Friday in an event marking the anniversary of a devastating summer 2006 war that pitted his fighters against the group's archfoe Israel.


Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 16 Aug 2013 14:04
 
Almost 30,000 Syrian refugees enter Iraq since Thursday

An estimated 29,000 Syrian refugees have entered northern Iraq since Thursday in one of the largest crossings in Syria's two-year-old conflict and the influx is continuing, the United Nations said on Monday.

Syrians fleeing fighting in Aleppo and other embattled parts of northern Syria began pouring into the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq last Thursday, taking advantage of a new pontoon bridge along the largely closed border, it said.
"It is a massive movement of people," said Dan McNorton, spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR).
The new figure includes some 20,000 now believed to have crossed over on Thursday and Saturday last week as well as 6,000 on Sunday and about 3,000 on Monday morning, he said.
The previous record for Syrians fleeing the country in a 24-hour period was around 9,000 believed to have left on a single day last November, mainly for Turkey, according to the UNHCR.

McNorton, asked whether most of the latest refugees were Syrian Kurds, said: "We don't have a full analysis of these people who have crossed. We don't have a full accurate headcount of all those who are crossing."
The recently built Peshkhabour pontoon bridge over the Tigris River has since been closed to refugees, remaining open only to commercial traffic, but fleeing Syrians are now using the Sahela crossing, "a more isolated route", McNorton said.

UNHCR has sent trucks loaded with emergency supplies and erected plastic tarpaulins at a transit site to provide shelter from the sun and heat. A refugee camp being built at Darashakran is expected to open by the end of August, McNorton said.
More than 1.9 million Syrian refugees have registered in neighboring countries as well as Egypt since an uprising against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad began in March 2011.
Prior to the latest exodus, they included 154,000 Syrians who had registered as refugees in Iraq.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/19/us-syria-crisis-refugees-idUSBRE97I0KZ20130819
 
Dozens of Victims in Chemical Bombing near Damascus

Dozens of people were killed or wounded in fierce army bombardment of areas near Damascus on Wednesday, an NGO said, in what activists charged was a toxic gas attack.

The allegation of chemical weapons being used in the heavily-populated areas came on the second day of a mission to Syria by UN inspectors. It was promptly denied by the Syrian authorities.

"Regime forces ... stepped up military operations in the Eastern Ghouta and Western Ghouta zones of the Damascus region with aircraft and rocket launchers, causing several dozen dead and wounded," said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The intensive bombing on the outskirts of the capital could be heard by residents of Damascus, where a grey cloud capped the sky.

The Britain-based Observatory, which relies on a vast network of activists on the ground and medics, said the army operation was aimed at the recapture of Madhamiyat el-Sham, an area southwest of Damascus.

The Local Coordination Committees (LCC), a network of activists reported hundreds of casualties in the "brutal use of toxic gas by the criminal regime in parts of Western Ghouta".

And in videos posted on YouTube, the Syrian Revolution General Commission, another activist group, showed what it called "a terrible massacre committed by regime forces with toxic gas, leaving dozens of martyrs and wounded."

The attack "led to suffocation of the children and overcrowding field hospitals with hundreds of casualties amid extreme shortage of medical supplies to rescue the victims, particularly Atropine," the LCC said in an English-language statement.

Eastern Ghouta "was also shelled by warplanes following the chemical attack that is still ongoing which led to hundreds of casualties and victims, among them entire families," it said.

In one video, children are seen being given first aid in a field hospital, notably oxygen to help them breathe. Doctors appear to be trying to resuscitate unconscious children who show no signs of bleeding.

The authenticity of the videos could not immediately be verified.

The Syrian Observatory called for inspectors to hastily visit the stricken sites and ensure access for medical aid.

UN chief Ban Ki-moon insisted Monday that the inspectors be granted unrestricted access to Syrian sites where chemical weapons have allegedly been used in the country's 29-month-old conflict.

The inspectors, expected to visit three sites including Khan al-Assal near Aleppo in the north, are due to be in Syria for 14 days, with the possibility for an extension of the mission.

"In order to credibly establish the facts, the mission must have full access to the sites of the alleged incidents," the secretary general told reporters.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 21 Aug 2013 09:57 OrigID : LP600892
 
Over 650 killed in Syrian 'chemical massacre'

BEIRUT - More than 650 people were killed when the Syrian army bombarded Damascus suburbs with chemical weapons Wednesday, the opposition said, branding it a "massacre" and calling for international intervention.

The claim, which could not be independently verified, was vehemently denied by the Syrian regime, saying it was intended to hinder the mission of UN chemical weapons inspectors now in the country.

"Over 650 confirmed dead result of deadly chemical weapon attack in Syria," the opposition Syrian National Coalition said on Twitter, as videos showed medics attending to suffocating children suffocating and hospitals being overwhelmed.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a Britain-based monitoring group, said at least 100 people were killed in air raids and shelling that struck several rebel areas east and southwest of Damascus.

"This figure will surely go up. The raids and bombardment are continuing," said the Observatory, which gathers its information from activists and medics.

It did not comment on the allegations that the army had used chemical arms in its assault on the densely populated Ghouta suburbs, where rebels have been holding out against government forces.

State news agency Sana said "reports on the use of chemical weapons in Ghouta are totally false. It's an attempt to prevent the UN commission of inquiry from carrying out its mission."

The agency described Wednesday's violence as "a series of operations" by army units "against terrorist groups" in Jobar, Irbin and Zamalka, "killing a number of them and destroying their hideouts".

The regime describes its opponents as "terrorists".

Throughout the morning, activists reported chemical attacks in several rebel areas east and southwest of Damascus.

The Local Coordination Committees, a network of activists, reported hundreds of casualties in the "brutal use of toxic gas by the criminal regime".

And in videos posted on YouTube, the Syrian Revolution General Commission, another activist group, showed what it called "a terrible massacre committed by regime forces with toxic gas."

The attack "led to suffocation of the children and overcrowding field hospitals with hundreds of casualties amid extreme shortage of medical supplies to rescue the victims, particularly Atropine," the LCC said.

Eastern Ghouta "was also shelled by warplanes following the chemical attack that is still ongoing, which led to hundreds of casualties and victims, among them entire families," it said.

In one video, children are seen being given first aid in a field hospital, notably oxygen to help them breathe. Doctors appear to be trying to resuscitate unconscious children, who showed no signs of bleeding.

More footage showed dozens of people laid out on the ground, among them many children, some of them covered in white sheets.

"Genocide! Genocide in the town of Moadamiyet al-Sham (southwest of Damascus) using chemical weapons," cries the man behind the camera.

His voice trembling with fear, he adds: "Where are my parents? Where is my father? My mother?"

The authenticity of the videos could not immediately be verified.

"People working in the field hospital are overwhelmed and unable to do anything for the wounded. There is a severe lack of medicines. The wounded are being treated using just water and onions," Abu Jihad, an activist in Irbin, said via the Internet.

"This regime considers children in liberated areas to be its enemies," Eastern Ghouta-based Abu Nadim said via the Internet.

The Coalition called for an urgent UN Security Council meeting.

"I call on the Security Council to convene urgently," Coalition leader Ahmad Jarba told Al-Arabiya television, condemning what he called a massacre.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said his country will refer the charges of a chemical weapons strike to the Security Council.

He was "deeply concerned" by the reports and said if they were proved they would mark a "shocking escalation" in the 29-month civil war.

The heavy bombing could be heard in the capital itself, where a grey cloud capped the sky.

The Observatory called for inspectors to hastily visit the stricken sites and ensure access for medical aid.

And the Arab League urged the inspectors to visit the site immediately "to see the reality of the situation and investigate the circumstances of this crime."

UN chief Ban Ki-moon insisted Monday that the inspectors be granted unrestricted access to Syrian sites.

"In order to credibly establish the facts, the mission must have full access to the sites of the alleged incidents," the secretary general said.

Al-Watan newspaper said the government had "pledged to cooperate and facilitate the work" the UN inspectors, who launched their mission Tuesday.

There have frequent claims by anti-regime activists of the alleged use of chemical weapons by the army, particularly in Damascus province and Homs in central Syria.

Claims have also emerged from Idlib in the northwest, while the army and rebels have exchanged blame over the alleged use of chemical arms in a March attack in Khan al-Assal in the northern province of Aleppo.

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Well the UN team are in syria. So we will see what they say.

Video means nothing, how many fake syrian videos have been produced since the start? Only aljazeera and cnn now ensure people know the videos are not verified something they didn't do initially.
 
Opposition says as many as 1,300 killed in gas attack near Damascus

(Reuters) - Syria's opposition accused President Bashar al-Assad's forces of gassing many hundreds of people - by one report as many as 1,300 - on Wednesday in what would, if confirmed, be the world's worst chemical weapons attack in decades.

Western and regional countries called for U.N. chemical weapons investigators - who arrived in Damascus just three days ago - to be urgently dispatched to the scene of one of the deadliest incidents of the two-year-old civil war.

Images, including some taken by freelance photographers and supplied to Reuters, showed scores of bodies including of small children, laid out on the floor of a clinic with no visible signs of injuries.

Reuters was not independently able to verify the cause of their death. The Syrian government denied that it had used chemical arms.

George Sabra, one of the leading opponents of Assad, said the death toll was 1,300 killed by poison gas rained down on suburbs east of Damascus.

"Today's crimes are ... not the first time the regime has used chemical weapons. But they constitute a turning point in the regime's operations," he told a news conference in Istanbul. "This time it was for annihilation rather than terror."

An opposition monitoring group, citing figures compiled from medical clinics in the Damascus suburbs, put the death toll at 494 - 90 percent of them killed by gas, the rest by bombing and conventional arms. The rebel Syrian National Coalition said 650 people had been killed.

If the cause of death and the scale of the killing were confirmed, it would be the worst known use of chemical weapons since Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein gassed thousands of Kurds in the town of Halabja in 1988.

Activists said rockets with chemical agents hit the Damascus suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar during fierce pre-dawn bombardment by government forces.

The Damascus Media Office monitoring center said 150 bodies were counted in Hammouriya, 100 in Kfar Batna, 67 in Saqba, 61 in Douma, 76 in Mouadamiya and 40 in Irbib, all suburbs of Damascus.

SYMPTOMS

A nurse at Douma Emergency Collection facility, Bayan Baker, earlier told Reuters the death toll collated from medical centers was at least 213.

"Many of the casualties are women and children. They arrived with their pupils constricted, cold limbs and foam in their mouths. The doctors say these are typical symptoms of nerve gas victims," the nurse said. Exposure to sarin gas causes pupils in the eyes to shrink to pinpoint sizes and foaming at the lips.

The U.N. team is in Syria investigating allegations that both rebels and army forces used chemical weapons in the past, one of the main disputes in international diplomacy over Syria.

The Swedish scientist leading the team, Ake Sellstrom, said the reports should be looked into, but doing so would require a request from a U.N. member state.

France said the mission must be sent to the site to "investigate immediately". Turkey and Saudi Arabia made similar calls. Britain said it was deeply concerned and would raise the issue at the U.N. Security Council, adding the attacks would be "a shocking escalation" if confirmed.

Extensive amateur video and photographs appeared on the Internet showing countless bodies, with victims choking, some of them foaming at the mouth, and no sign of outward injury.

A video purportedly shot in the Kafr Batna neighborhood showed a room filled with more than 90 bodies, many of them children and a few women and elderly men. Most of the bodies appeared ashen or pale but with no visible injuries. About a dozen were wrapped in blankets.

Other footage showed doctors treating people in makeshift clinics. One video showed the bodies of a dozen people lying on the floor of a clinic, with no visible wounds. The narrator in the video said they were all members of a single family. In a corridor outside lay another five bodies.

A Syrian military officer appeared on state television and said the allegations were untrue and a sign of "hysteria and floundering" by Assad's opponents. Information Minister Omran Zoabi said the allegations were "illogical and fabricated".

The head of the opposition Syrian National Coalition said Assad's forces had carried out a massacre: "This is a chance for the (U.N. inspectors) to see with their own eyes this massacre and know that this regime is a criminal one," Ahmed Jarba said.

ACCUSATIONS

Syria is one of just a handful of countries that are not parties to the international treaty that bans chemical weapons, and Western nations believe it has caches of undeclared mustard gas, sarin and VX nerve agents.

Assad's officials have said they would never use poison gas - if they had it - against Syrians. The United States and European allies believe Assad's forces used small amounts of sarin gas in attacks in the past, which Washington called a "red line" that justified international military aid for the rebels.

Assad's government has responded in the past by accusing the rebels of using chemical weapons, which they deny. Western countries say they do not believe the rebels have access to poison gas. Assad's main global ally Moscow says accusations on both sides must be investigated.

Khaled Omar of the opposition Local Council in Ain Tarma said he saw at least 80 bodies at the Hajjah Hospital in Ain Tarma and at a makeshift clinic at Tatbiqiya School in the nearby district of Saqba.

"The attack took place at around 3:00 a.m. (8:00 p.m. EDT). Most of those killed were in their homes," Omar said.

An activist working with Ahrar al-Sham rebel unit in the Erbin district east of the capital who used the name Abu Nidal said many of those who died were rescuers who were overcome with poison when they arrived at the scene.

"We believe there was a group of initial responders who died or were wounded, because when we went in later, we saw men collapsed on staircases or inside doorways and it looks like they were trying to go in to help the wounded and then were hurt themselves," he told Reuters by Skype.

"At first none of us knew there were chemical agents because it seemed like just another night of air strikes, and no one was anticipating chemical weapons use, especially with U.N. monitors in town."

The timing of the allegations - just three days after the U.N. experts checked in to a Damascus hotel a few kilometers to the east at the start of their mission - was surprising.

"It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country," said Rolf Ekeus, a retired Swedish diplomat who headed a team of UN weapons inspectors in Iraq in the 1990s.

"At the least, it wouldn't be very clever."

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Well the UN team are in syria. So we will see what they say.

Video means nothing, how many fake syrian videos have been produced since the start? Only aljazeera and cnn now ensure people know the videos are not verified something they didn't do initially.

Same old tune hey. Must be the rebels using the gas on themselves to put the Syrian leaders in a bad spot hey. All the videos are fake hey. We will wait and see confirmation and hope "witnesses" will come forward hey.
 
Same old tune hey. Must be the rebels using the gas on themselves to put the Syrian leaders in a bad spot hey. All the videos are fake hey. We will wait and see confirmation and hope "witnesses" will come forward hey.

You should wake up and think for a second, i will explain what to think about after a couple links.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE94409Z20130505 You blatantly ignore that.
http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/ Again this is blatantly ignored. It is RT but you are welcome to verify it because there are many sources and turkey hates assad so they would not lie.

Now let's think about why assad would use chemical weapons when he has just allowed UN inspectors into the country. I really am not certain assad used chemical weapons after allowing the UN inspectors in and i will wait for them to determine what happened. Think about it, why would assad use chemical weapons now? just another setup by al nusra and the saudis, possibly qatar.

I am not naive, assad has fought for a long time without using chemical weapons, now UN inspectors arrive and suddenly he gasses 1300 people. Makes no sense to gas people now, suddenly UN inspectors arrives and there is a massive chemical attack by assad. Yea i will wait to see confirmed 100% reports that assad did this. Sounds more like al nusra to me.

Western countries say they do not believe the rebels have access to poison gas
refer back to my turkey link.

Yes i agree we will wait for something official to come out before placing the blame but if it makes sense to you that assad would gas people when he has just allowed UN inspectors into the country then who am i to say you are wrong, to me it isn't logical to do it now but perhaps it is logical to use chemical weapons when you allow inspectors in rather than use them and refuse entry to the inspectors.

"It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country," said Rolf Ekeus, a retired Swedish diplomat who headed a team of UN weapons inspectors in Iraq in the 1990s.

Duh, what kind of silly person believes assad would gas his people with UN inspectors allowed in.

Al queda are not rebels they are terrorists and extremists who will kill innocent people regardless who they are.

http://resistviolence.com/connect/archives/330 some graphic footage of al queda doing what they do best. So please don't tell me you think al queda are fighting for the syrian people when they are assassinating the opposition leaders.
 
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Frank Gardner BBC security correspondent

Two things stand out immediately in this reported Syrian attack.

Firstly, the timing is odd, bordering on suspicious. Why would the Assad government, which has recently been retaking ground from the rebels, carry out a chemical attack while UN weapons inspectors are in the country?

But secondly, the scale of the apparent casualties is far worse than any of the previous alleged chemical attacks. Experts say it would be almost impossible to fake so many dead and injured, including children and babies. They bear no visible wounds from gunshots; instead, many display the classic symptoms of a nerve agent attack, with startled, frozen expressions that experts say are reminiscent of Saddam Hussein's 1988 attack on the Kurds at Halabja.

Last year a senior Syrian defector, Nawaf Fares, told me in Qatar that the Assad government would not hesitate to use chemical weapons if it wanted to. However, today it denies any guilt and instead says this is a media campaign by its enemies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23777201

Another person who suspects the timing of these attacks seems a bit odd. O let's allow the inspectors in and then commit genocide with chemical weapons while they book into their hotel. Yea seriously sounds legit to me.

This is not fake, al nusra are capable of this kind of attack. They did slaughter 350 kurds not so long ago, mostly ignored by everyone.
 
As I said!

You want to see something that you should know? I doubt your one sided view would allow you to even give it a thought. It is hard for some people to see multiple sides to a story when they have been brain washed into believing one side and channel out anything that goes against that belief.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html huh why is it gone, now we have no proof but wait.... hold up a second actually here is the original article that was taken down for some reason, why was it taken down and why has everyone ignored the emails exposed by a hacker?

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129...chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

No it can't be seriously, channel this stuff out bro and believe assad is the one using chemical weapons when inspectors arrive.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/...ance-been-removed-from-the-daily-mail-website

I know you will think it is all rubbish and lies due to your one sided views that will never be challenged or moved. Don't worry millions of people channel out stuff that might conflict with their beliefs.

Turkey uncovers al nusra plans to use sarin gas inside turkey http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/07/the_al_qaeda_threat_1.php

But the westerners said the rebels/extremists don't have chemical weapons. Odd
 
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As I said!

BTW. It "must" be the USA. :whistle:

Not so sure it is the US giving the rebels gas and i am not even certain the footage is real anyhow, they may have said yes go ahead but it is qatar funding al nusra i thought it was the saudis or perhaps it is both.

Anyone who can see two sides to a coin should read this article http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/30/316273/west-war-crimes-in-syria-exposed/

The slaughter of 400 odd kurds by al nusra barely made western headlines, i will highlight a scary bit of that article for those who refuse to believe anything other than assad is bad and i am not saying he isn't but compared to the likes of al nusra assad is a saint. Well certainly the 2 million christians must like assad because he is the only reason al nusra have not slaughtered them.

The Syrian government has consistently alleged that all these mass killings are the work of Western-backed militants. This sickening terrorist methodology concatenates with the Takfiri mentality of killing everyone who is deemed to be an infidel - Sunni, Shia, Alawite, Christian, non-believer alike, who does not subscribe to their fundamentalist twisted theology.
 
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France calls for force if chemical weapons are confirmed in Syria

France is seeking a reaction with "force" if a massacre in Syria involving chemical weapons is confirmed, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Thursday, although he ruled out the use of ground troops.

"If it is proven, France's position is that there must be a reaction, a reaction that could take the form of a reaction with force," Fabius told BFM-TV.

"There are possibilities for responding," he said without elaborating.

The main Syrian opposition group claims that as many as 1,300 people were killed in a chemical weapons attack Wednesday on rebel areas near Damascus.

Videos distributed by activists, the authenticity of which could not immediately be verified, showed medics attending to suffocating children and hospitals being overwhelmed.

In June, Fabius had raised the possibility of using military force against chemical arms production centres after France confirmed that Damascus had resorted to such weapons.

But on Thursday the foreign minister said there was "no question" of sending in ground troops, adding "it's impossible."

If Wednesday's attack is confirmed, "I believe it cannot go without a reaction from those who believe in international legality," Fabius said.

"If the Security Council cannot take a decision, at that moment decisions must be taken in another way. How? I would not go further," he said.

UN Security Council members are seeking "clarity" on the suspected chemical weapons attack.

But diplomats said the council did not adopt a formal declaration because of opposition from Russia and China, which have for the last two years blocked any condemnation of their ally in Damascus.

"The Russians must assume their responsibilities," Fabius said.

"We are in a phase where it must be believed that the Security Council members are consistent. All said that chemical weapons should not be used. They all signed an international accord which bans their use, including the Russians," he said.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 22 Aug 2013 10:09
 
I see Russia is still supporting Syria :rolleyes:

Hell yes, better than supporting extremism in the form of al queda. Russia are supporting the right side here marine.

Believe me marine i know you don't like russia but look at the situation and look at the syrian situation without goggles. Assad should be supported here, nobody should be funding extreme terrorists. Russia had better make good on it's promise to confront the nations who intervene without confirmed evidence assad has done anything.

Marine what if the UN concludes al nusra gassed those people what then? Ignore it and carry on supporting extremism? You realize al nusra hate everyone marine, assad falls and 2 million christians be will massacred, do you think al nusra will stop with syria? lebanon, israel, jordan,turkey, iran, russia and iraq will be their play grounds. Why do you think people are fleeing syria in mass now, al nusra are slaughtering anyone and everyone. Not via war, they are doing what al queda does best and that is slaughtering innocent people. Russia will back assad because they know those christians are as good as dead should he fall.

This red flag is going to work and we will see russia and iran backing up assad shortly. Already the brain washed masses believe assad gassed those people without even giving it a thought.
 
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Hell yes, better than supporting extremism in the form of al queda. Russia are supporting the right side here marine.

Believe me marine i know you don't like russia but look at the situation and look at the syrian situation without goggles. Assad should be supported here, nobody should be funding extreme terrorists. Russia had better make good on it's promise to confront the nations who intervene without confirmed evidence assad has done anything.

Marine what if the UN concludes al nusra gassed those people what then? Ignore it and carry on supporting extremism?
I have never once said I do not like Russia, I love it, I do not like Putin, he is a gansgter, simple as that.
Assad is a terrorist himself, sponsoring state terrorism against Israel for years so really I hope he gets what he deserves.
 
I have never once said I do not like Russia, I love it, I do not like Putin, he is a gansgter, simple as that.
Assad is a terrorist himself, sponsoring state terrorism against Israel for years so really I hope he gets what he deserves.

While israel has just sold arms to saudi arabia to give to al nusra, let's be honest israel are not exactly the angels you make them out to be nor are the they the villians some including myself have made them out to be at times. The real issue here is not israel, assad, russia. The real threat here is al nusra getting arms that can hurt israel and all surrounding countries.

Supporting terrorists has always come back to haunt the people who supported them, turkey is a prime example. Allowing terrorists into syria but now they are coming back and targeting turkey. The US have done it over and over, even russia have done it.

This time the rebels are not your average terrorist, they are extremists with radical theology and everyone is an infidel. If you want to see what US weapons can do to israel, let al nusra take out assad. Then you will see what proper weapons and cars bombs can do to a country. Iraq prime example of what these extremists are doing, targeting even the sunnis in iraq.
 
Killa, the only reason Al Nusra and other extremist groups got a foothold in all of this is because Assad made opposition impossible. He started butchering people who were peacefully protesting his despotism. Civil war is chaos, and the extremist groups took the opportunity.

And Russia doesn't give a flying figleaf who's in power, so long as their interests are served. If the government does get overthrown they'll start selling weapons to whoever's in power next.
 
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