The Syrian Conflict Thread

He is concerned now? Didn't he see this coming?

Israel should be the most concerned. They are running drills for chemical attacks and a sudden war if assad falls. It's no longer a matter of removing assad and boom everybody is happy. Syria is israel biggest threat that i can remember in a very long time and oddly enough it isn't hezbollah, palestinians nor is it assad they are worried about.
 
Rocket fired from Lebanon towards Israel

A rocket was fired from southern Lebanon towards Israel late Sunday night, Lebanon's state-run National News Agency reported.

The news agency said the rocket was fired from a location near the southern town of Marjayoun, about six miles (10 kilometers) north of the Israeli border. It was not immediately clear who fired the rocket or whether it caused any damage or casualties.

The Israeli military did not confirm that a rocket was fired, but said residents in northern Israel reported hearing an explosion. The military said it was searching the area and trying to determine the circumstances behind the explosion.

In addition to the Shiite Muslim Hezbollah militia, militant Palestinian groups are also known to operate in south Lebanon.

The incident came at a time of heightened tensions in Lebanon as Syria's civil war has spilled over into its neighbor with street clashes and other violence.

Earlier Sunday, two rockets hit Hezbollah strongholds in south Beirut, tearing through an apartment and car dealership, wounding four Syrian workers. There was no claim of responsibility, but the attack was widely portrayed as retaliation for Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah's pledge that the Shiite militia would fight alongside Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces until victory over Syrian rebels.


Source : Sapa-AP /mm
Date : 27 May 2013 00:54
 
French Journalists report Chemical Weapons use near Damascus

French newspaper Le Monde reported Monday that the Syrian army is using chemical weapons against rebel forces in the outskirts of Damascus, quoting two of its journalists who were in the area in April and May.

The journalists "witnessed over several consecutive days" the use of explosive chemical weapons and their effects on rebel fighters in the village of Jobar on the outskirts of the capital, reporter Jean-Philippe Remy wrote.

Photographer Laurent Van der Stockt reported that on April 13 he saw fighters "suffocating and vomiting" in the area after an apparent attack using chemical weapons.

The journalists said they had gathered witness accounts of the use of chemical weapons in a large area around Damascus.

One doctor in a rebel-held area told the newspaper that the weapons caused breathing difficulties, headaches and nausea, and could cause death if victims were not treated.

"The gases are used on the front on an ad hoc basis, avoiding widespread use that would easily provide irrefutable evidence," Remy wrote.

A top UN envoy said Wednesday there are "mounting reports" of the use of chemical weapons in Syria and called on Damascus to let in UN investigators.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 27 May 2013 11:07
 
Syrian TV Correspondent killed covering fighting

Gunmen killed a TV correspondent for a Syrian state-owned channel and wounded two other station employees Monday who were covering clashes near the border with Lebanon, Syria's government said, as regime troops backed by fighters from the Lebanese militant Hezbollah group advanced on a rebel-held town in the strategic area.

The fighting around the town of Qusair has taken a heavy toll on both the rebel and government forces, including the regime's Hezbollah allies. An activist group said the Lebanese militia has lost nearly 80 fighters this month, most of them in Qusair.

Syria's Information Ministry said Yara Abbas, a prominent female war reporter for state-owned Al-Ikhbariyah TV, was attacked by rebels near the Dabaa military air base in the central province of Homs. The ministry said in a statement carried by state TV that the car carrying Abbas and her crew was ambushed in Dabaa.

The attack also wounded two other of the station's employees, a cameraman and his assistant, according to state TV.

Dozens of journalists have been killed, wounded or kidnapped since Syria's crisis began in March 2011. Over that time, more than 70,000 people have been killed in the conflict, according to the United Nations.

Dabaa air base is located near Qusair, which has been under attack by government forces and Hezbollah fighters since last week. Dozens of rebels, troops and Hezbollah members have been killed in the heavy fighting that entered its 9th day on Monday.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported fighting in Qusair and Dabaa early Monday. It said troops and Hezbollah fighters captured the nearby town of Hamidiyeh, tightening the siege on Qusair.

Observatory director Rami Abdul-Rahman said troops are now trying to capture the village of Haret al-Turkumen in order to put Qusair under "complete siege."

State TV said troops captured more parts of the northern and central rebel-held neighborhoods of Qusair that had been mostly under rebel control shortly after the crisis began.

The Observatory said that Hezbollah has lost 79 members in Syria in 10 days of fighting, all of them but four of them in the Qusair area.

The battle for Qusair has exposed Hezbollah's growing role in the Syrian conflict. The Shiite militant group, which has been fighting alongside President Bashar Assad's troops, initially tried to play down its involvement, but could no longer do so after dozens of its fighters were killed in the area and buried in large funerals in Lebanon.

On Saturday, Hezbollah's leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah firmly linked his militant group's fate to the survival of the Syrian regime, raising the stakes not just in Syria, but also in Hezbollah's relations with rival groups in Lebanon.

Qusair's value lies in its location along a land corridor linking two of Assad's strongholds, the capital of Damascus and towns on the Mediterranean coast, the heartland of his minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam. For the rebels, holding Qusair means protecting a supply line to Lebanon, 10 kilometers (six miles) away.

Also Monday, Syrian TV said troops ambushed a group of gunmen shortly after they crossed from Lebanon on their way to Qusair. It said the infiltrators suffered casualties.

Al-Mayadeen TV, which has several reporters embedded with Syrian troops, aired footage from the town showing wide-scale destruction. At least three bodies could be seen on one of the streets.

The Observatory and the Local Coordination Committees reported clashes and shelling in other parts of Syria including the capital Damascus and its suburbs, the northern province of Aleppo and Idlib and Daraa to the south.

The Observatory said three days of clashes between rebels and Kurdish gunmen in Aleppo province has left three Kurds and 16 opposition gunmen dead.

The main Syrian opposition group, meanwhile, said in a statement Monday that it has not taken a final decision on whether to attend U.N.-sponsored talks with regime representatives in Geneva next month on ending the civil war.

The Syrian National Coalition, which has been holding meetings for days in Turkey, said it added eight new members including leading opposition figure Michel Kilo.

Damascus has said that it has agreed "in principle" to attend the talks in Geneva.

In Brussels, the European Union remained divided on Monday on whether to ease sanctions against Syria to allow for weapons shipments to rebels.

Britain is the most outspoken proponent of relaxing the arms embargo but faces opposition from some members who feel more weapons would only increase the killings and tarnish the EU's reputation as a peace broker. Several nations say that arming the opposition would create a level playing field that would force Assad into a negotiated settlement.

Journalists covering Syria's bloody conflict, on both the government and rebel sides of the front lines, have been caught in the crossfire - or targeted - on several occasions.

Syria's state-run Al-Thawra daily reported last week that nine journalists and 23 other crew members working for state-run media have been killed in the country over the past two years.

Several foreign reporters also have lost their lives covering the conflict, including award-winning French TV reporter Gilles Jacquier, photographer Remi Ochlik and Britain's Sunday Times correspondent Marie Colvin. Also, Anthony Shadid, a correspondent for The New York Times, died after an apparent asthma attack while on assignment in Syria.

Journalists have also increasingly become targets for kidnapping. In August last year, a crew from Al-Ikhbariyah television was abducted by anti-government forces before being later rescued by Syrian troops.

In December, NBC correspondent Richard Engel and his crew were detained by pro-regime gunmen in northern Syria. After his release, Engel said they escaped unharmed during a firefight between their captors and anti-regime rebels.

James Foley, a 39-year-old American journalist, has been missing in Syria since late last year. Foley has worked in a number of conflict zones around the Middle East, including Syria, Libya and Iraq. He was contributing videos to Agence France-Press while in Syria.

Amnesty International said on May 3 that Syria's government and elements of the rebel movement are deliberately targeting journalists, releasing a report which doled out blame for both sides in the country's civil war.

The London-based rights group acknowledged that the journalists' deaths - numbering somewhere between 44 and 100, depending on who does the counting - represent only "a miniscule fraction" of a death toll.


Source : Sapa-AP /sdv
Date : 27 May 2013 16:11
 
Amnesty International said on May 3 that Syria's government and elements of the rebel movement are deliberately targeting journalists, releasing a report which doled out blame for both sides in the country's civil war.

The London-based rights group acknowledged that the journalists' deaths - numbering somewhere between 44 and 100, depending on who does the counting - represent only "a miniscule fraction" of a death toll.

Knowing journalists, they will still clamor for the chance to be sent there.
 
UN Arms Embargo too late: Syrian Opposition

Syria's opposition on Tuesday denounced as "too little, too late" an EU decision to lift an arms embargo on rebels fighting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

"Definitely it is a positive step, but we are afraid it could be too little, too late," Louay Safi, spokesman for Syria's main opposition National Coalition, told AFP.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 28 May 2013 10:24
 
Russia Blasts EU for Lifting Erms Embargo

Russia's deputy foreign minister says the European Union's decision to lift an arms embargo to Syrian opposition undermines the efforts of both Russia and the U.S to mediate peace talks in Geneva next month.

The European Union said its member states within days will be able to send weapons to help Syria's outgunned rebels after its current embargo expires this week, seeking to pressure President Bashar Assad's regime ahead of planned peace talks.

Sergei Ryabkov on Tuesday lashed out at the move, calling it "a manifestation of double standards," which will hurt the prospects for talks.

More than 70,000 people have been killed since Syrian conflict began in March 2011.


Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 28 May 2013 11:03
 
Double Standards? Bwahaha... meanwhile Russia has been arming the Syrian Regime all along.
 
Russia does not give a flying toss about Syria. This is all about economics to them. Really poor show from the Russians. I also can't believe that there has not been a stronger reaction to the use of chemical weapons.
 
Double Standards? Bwahaha... meanwhile Russia has been arming the Syrian Regime all along.

Yes they have been arming a recognized government and country, russia has not armed terrorists directly unlike many of the so called good guys. They have not been arming the likes of al queda something the US, UK and france are trying to do. Most european countries think it's the biggest mistake they will make, even the US or obama is not keen on arming the rebels. Israel are running chemical drills and war drills for an instant reaction to either because if assad falls believe me there won't be an israel friendly rebel group coming to power and they will have access to chemical weapons which will mean israel will need to go on the attack.

Mccain was in syria yesterday, odd but that is the report i read.

Double standards don't exist when russia is arming countries and the US is arming countries, the double standard comes when the US is willing to arm al queda but thinks arming the likes of hezbollah is wrong, put that is your double standard box or use a better example.

If you think russia was arming a dictator fair enough but go look at the US and see who they arm, no double standard arming a recognized country gary. Arming unknown rebels/terrorists linked to al queda though is very scary, when has russia even had that thought in the last 20 years? It is too late to arm the rebel groups now, doing so will only work against israel something the US and israel are well aware of but they ignored the warning of pandora's box in iraq so i guess history repeating itself is par for the course.
 
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Arming unknown rebels/terrorists linked to al queda though is very scary, when has russia even had that thought in the last 20 years?

Pretty sure the Russian built AK47 is every terrorists default weapon of choice. You could say the Russians invented terrorism with the AK47!! Hell, ban the AK47 and there's no reason to become a terrorist!!
 
Pretty sure the Russian built AK47 is every terrorists default weapon of choice. You could say the Russians invented terrorism with the AK47!! Hell, ban the AK47 and there's no reason to become a terrorist!!

Did you see i said directly or did you miss that part? They have not directly taken orders from terrorists, the weapons have been moved around when places like libya falls and so on. Again i will repeat myself, russia have not directly dealt with terrorist groups nor have they directly armed them.

That cannot be said of the so called good guys who are about to arm al queda linked terrorists. This isn't going to end well for israel and i would be pretty worried if i was israel right now.

Here is a better story that focuses more on the conflict and what more weapons mean.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/28/syria-arms-embargo_n_3344413.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Actually the US invented terrorism when they armed osama bin laden, that was the start. So russia played no part once again in arming terrorists unlike the US, now Britain and now France will go down that road.
 
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Yes they have been arming a recognized government and country, russia has not armed terrorists directly unlike many of the so called good guys. They have not been arming the likes of al queda something the US, UK and france are trying to do. Most european countries think it's the biggest mistake they will make, even the US or obama is not keen on arming the rebels. Israel are running chemical drills and war drills for an instant reaction to either because if assad falls believe me there won't be an israel friendly rebel group coming to power and they will have access to chemical weapons which will mean israel will need to go on the attack.

Mccain was in syria yesterday, odd but that is the report i read.

Double standards don't exist when russia is arming countries and the US is arming countries, the double standard comes when the US is willing to arm al queda but thinks arming the likes of hezbollah is wrong, put that is your double standard box or use a better example.

If you think russia was arming a dictator fair enough but go look at the US and see who they arm, no double standard arming a recognized country gary. Arming unknown rebels/terrorists linked to al queda though is very scary, when has russia even had that thought in the last 20 years? It is too late to arm the rebel groups now, doing so will only work against israel something the US and israel are well aware of but they ignored the warning of pandora's box in iraq so i guess history repeating itself is par for the course.

They are arming a country that is at war with it's own citizens.
They are aiding the killing of innocent people caught up in a civil war.
Surely even you understand that Killa?
 
Did you see i said directly or did you miss that part? They have not directly taken orders from terrorists, the weapons have been moved around when places like libya falls and so on. Again i will repeat myself, russia have not directly dealt with terrorist groups nor have they directly armed them.

That cannot be said of the so called good guys who are about to arm al queda linked terrorists. This isn't going to end well for israel and i would be pretty worried if i was israel right now.

Here is a better story that focuses more on the conflict and what more weapons mean.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/28/syria-arms-embargo_n_3344413.html?utm_hp_ref=uk


HTF would you even know? Are you an expert of Russian internal affairs. This thumbsucking must stop urgently!
 
They are arming a country that is at war with it's own citizens.
They are aiding the killing of innocent people caught up in a civil war.
Surely even you understand that Killa?

NO! that would be against his personal belief and as such his religion. It's not the west his referring to, its Russia and he is their ghost of internal affairs. ;)
 
They are arming a country that is at war with it's own citizens.
They are aiding the killing of innocent people caught up in a civil war.
Surely even you understand that Killa?

Surely innocent people will die in a civil war? May i ask gary the arms the rebels currently have that we know have been given to them by outside forces is that not aiding in the death of innocent people?

Where is your collateral story now gary, suddenly innocent people dying is an issue, o wait it isn't when the US/uk etc are killing them so it isn't casualties of war or collateral damage eh? Odd how those few words are used to defend the US/uk etc actions but used to attack a country involved in a civil war. Arming these al queda backed rebels is a very bad idea and i might agree with arming rebels who are united and who have come out and said we like israel, when the leaders all agree that no matter what happens israel will remain their enemy, you should not be arming these people. you should be backing assad to keep them in check like saddam was doing.

Sorry but i must admit the US supporters have somewhat made the death of innocent people seem fine during a time of war, odd that the same line of thinking as usual is not applied to the same situations. Iraq an illegal war 100000 dead civilians, i get told collateral damage and blah blah, now suddenly people care about innocents? Common gary get your standards inline and perhaps things will seem more clear. Drones strikes killing a family, collateral damage, it kinda numbs your senses i guess. 10000 death in iraq, a few thousand dead in libya due to the bombing etc. Now omg innocent people are dying? That is not the same thing, double standard gary.

Iraq showed us something gary, it should have been a lesson but it wasn't, libya should have been a lesson but wasn't, syria again will be an ignored lesson gary. Only this time it will be a regional lesson, it will bring israel to the brink of war and they may have to hit syria as soon as assad falls which will still be a long time. Assad is the president of syria and just because the west says he must go means nothing, maybe to you but if rebels suddenly tried to take bahrain i can bet you the west would back that government. So stop looking at the issue through goggles.

Stop using innocent deaths to try and get sympathy when you have no sympathy for the casualties or collateral damage when the western countries kill thousands of innocent people fighting wars. Sympathy for innocent people seems to be conflict related and not a global feeling for most people sadly.
 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3661134.stm

Pretty much illegal, not really something to argue about though, the UN still sees it as illegal. Guess who helped saddam use chemical weapons on his people sandman? i will give you one guess and be honest don't use google.

Without google who sat by and watched saddam gas his own people and then left him in power for the next 2 decades? Again try with one guess.

Guess who armed osama bin laden?

So what i am saying is let's not pretend russia or any country for that matter has avoided backing a government they support, let's admit that the so called good guys have armed, defended and still defend the very same things they act like they are against. Let's try and live in the reality of our planet and move away from the good guys vs the bad guys because i see no good guys but somehow people see good guys. I don't know why 100000 iraqi people are not innocent and classed as casualties of war or collateral damage but innocent deaths in syria are not classed the same, yet it's a war. Whether or not it's civil surely makes no difference. As many of the US supporters have said, war comes with casualties. That is just how it works unless you are anti west then wait let's go look up the rules for you.
 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3661134.stm

Pretty much illegal, not really something argue about though. Guess who helped saddam use chemical weapons on his people sandman? i will give you one guess and be honest don't use google.

Without google who sat by and watched saddam gas his own people and then left him in power for the next 2 decades? Again try with one guess.

Guess who armed osama bin laden?

Guess who are using chemical weapons now, but don't worry that's OK because it's Syria aided by the Russians hey Killa?
 
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