The Tesla Model 3 Thread

PseudZ said:
How long is the life expectancy of the battery pack? You might need to look at replacing it in a few years?
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Well if you look after the car it should have more than 90% of it capacity at 5 years and 80%+ at 10 years. Also normal deterioration is not covered in any warranty.

Too bad for you if it can only go 200km after a rough couple of years and it's deemed normal degradation. They can easily claim excessive driving/draining/heat etc. Not saying they will though.
 
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Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty
The Model S lithium-ion battery (the “Battery”) and Drive Unit are extremely sophisticated
powertrain components designed to withstand extreme driving conditions. You can rest easy
knowing that Tesla’s state-of-the-art Battery and Drive Unit are backed by this Battery and Drive
Unit Limited Warranty, which covers the repair or replacement of any malfunctioning or defective
Battery or Drive Unit, subject to the limitations described below. If your Battery or Drive Unit
requires warranty service, Tesla will repair the unit, or replace it with a factory reconditioned unit.
When replacing a Battery, Tesla will ensure that the energy capacity of the replacement Battery is
at least equal to that of the original Battery before the failure occurred. To provide you with even
more assurance, this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty will also cover damage to your
vehicle from a Battery fire even if it is the result of driver error. (Coverage will not extend to
damage that had already been sustained before a Battery fire occurred, or to any damage if the
Battery fire occurred after your vehicle had already been totaled.) Your vehicle’s Battery and Drive
Unit are covered under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty for a period of 8 years,
unlimited miles/km, with the exception of the 60 kWh battery which is covered for 8 years or
125,000 miles/200,000 km, whichever comes first.
Despite the breadth of this warranty, damage resulting from intentional actions (including
intentionally abusing or destroying your vehicle or ignoring active vehicle warnings), a collision or
accident (excluding from Battery fires as specified above), or the servicing or opening of the
Battery or Drive Unit by non-Tesla personnel, is not covered under this Battery and Drive Unit
Limited Warranty.
In addition, the Drive Unit is subject to the exclusions and limitations described in this New Vehicle
Limited Warranty. Damage to the Battery resulting from the following activities is also not covered
under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty:
• Physically damaging the Battery, or intentionally attempting, either by physical means,
programming, or other methods, to extend (other than as specified in your owner
documentation) or reduce the life of the Battery;
• Exposing the Battery to direct flame (excluding from Battery fires as specified above); or,
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• Flooding of the Battery.
The Battery, like all lithium-ion batteries, will experience gradual energy or power loss with time
and use. Loss of Battery energy or power over time or due to or resulting from Battery usage, is
NOT covered under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty. See your owner documentation
for important information on how to maximize the life and capacity of the Battery.
Warranty Coverage
Warranty Coverage 5
Warranty Limitations
This New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any vehicle damage or malfunction directly or
indirectly caused by, due to or resulting from normal wear or deterioration, abuse, misuse,
negligence, accident, improper maintenance, operation, storage or transport, including, but not
limited to, any of the following:
• Failure to take the vehicle to a Tesla Service Center or Tesla authorized repair facility upon
discovery of a defect covered by this New Vehicle Limited Warranty;
• Accidents, collisions, or objects striking the vehicle;
• Any repair, alteration or modification of the vehicle, or the installation or use of fluids, parts or
accessories, made by a person or facility not authorized or certified to do so;
• Improper repair or maintenance, including use of fluids, parts or accessories other than those
specified in your owner documentation;
• Towing the vehicle;
• Improper winch procedures;
• Theft, vandalism, or riot;
• Fire, explosion, earthquake, windstorm, lightning, hail, flood, or deep water;
• Driving the vehicle off-road, over uneven, rough, damaged or hazardous surfaces, including
but not limited to, curbs, potholes, unfinished roads, debris, or other obstacles, or in
competition, racing or autocross or for any other purposes for which the vehicle is not
designed;
• Overloading the vehicle;
• Using the vehicle as a stationary power source; and
• The environment or an act of God, including, but not limited to, exposure to sunlight, airborne
chemicals, tree sap, animal or insect droppings, road debris (including stone chips), industry
fallout, rail dust, salt, hail, floods, wind storms, acid rain, fire, water, contamination, lightning
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They don't list any particular capacity expectation, no.
 
Driving it offroad is an interesting exclusion and rather specific, but then again most warranties probably say that.
 
Any takers lol

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FiestaST said:
Is it not possible that some of your guys are blinded by the Tesla PR-machine & #Teslalove?

Is it really the best thing since a lovely slice of bread?
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People are quick to comment about the "iPad" stuck on in Mercs, looks 100 times worse in this Tesla imo. Then again we haven't seen the real interior yet, for some reason that is still under wraps

I'm also not a fan of having every single control (minus the usuals on the steering wheel) being on the touch screen. Some elements should remain physical, not only for ease of use (like on poor roads) but safety as well.
 
Maybe I'm swimming against the current here, but the smooth grill-free front end and the spartan interior lacking even an instrument cluster really don't appeal much. Having your primary instruments running on software on a touch screen worries me a bit - will this cut it: "sorry officer, my display panel crashed so I had no idea how fast I was going"?
 
That car looks so stupid with that covered over radiator grill. I mean I know it doesn't need a radiator, so why make it look like the car had one, and then the opening got closed? Why not think outside the box in terms of design and make it look like a new thing, not a redesigned old thing.
 
Nerhzelok said:
Cool numbers, what about annual maintenance costs?
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Included it in the purchase price?

https://www.teslamotors.com/support/service-plans

$4000 for 8 years.


But then I didn't add maintenance costs to the other vehicles in comparison either, purely running costs of fuel for comparison.

The Tesla has very little maintenance to be done so should ultimately be cheaper than conventional combustion car.
 
pinball wizard said:
That car looks so stupid with that covered over radiator grill. I mean I know it doesn't need a radiator, so why make it look like the car had one, and then the opening got closed? Why not think outside the box in terms of design and make it look like a new thing, not a redesigned old thing.
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Put a numberplate there as you ultimately would have to do in most countries and it doesn't seem so silly any more.
 
garp said:
Maybe I'm swimming against the current here, but the smooth grill-free front end and the spartan interior lacking even an instrument cluster really don't appeal much. Having your primary instruments running on software on a touch screen worries me a bit - will this cut it: "sorry officer, my display panel crashed so I had no idea how fast I was going"?
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Why on earth would you need a grill? The car doesn't need the cooling from the airflow and all it will do is add drag.
 
garp said:
Maybe I'm swimming against the current here, but the smooth grill-free front end and the spartan interior lacking even an instrument cluster really don't appeal much. Having your primary instruments running on software on a touch screen worries me a bit - will this cut it: "sorry officer, my display panel crashed so I had no idea how fast I was going"?
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The lack of instrument cluster is no different to the virtual cockpit in an Audi. The "grill" does look weird, maybe they could paint something or add some other design to detract from the nakedness. The other Teslas have some sort of large T thing there.
 
Just so I understand the Tesla range correctly - it's S, 3, X ?

Nice Elon, S3X always sells...
 
Charly said:
Why on earth would you need a grill? The car doesn't need the cooling from the airflow and all it will do is add drag.
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I wasn't suggesting it should have a grill, just that they could have done something more aesthetically appealing than a flat panel.
 
Went to the Tesla store yesterday in Shanghai and sat in the Model S.

Unimpressed with the interior to be honest, its equivalent to a low end BMW, rather than a higher end vehicle - they're definitely not spending much money on those aspects.

They had an under chassis there too on display - the welding looked subpar too on that. I've seen a lot better.

Far too many gimmicky aspects on the Model S - the door handles that you touch/push to come out, and then can't push back in.
If thats American quality, then I'm less than impressed. The Chinese do a far better job.
American's on the other hand are usually better at the software side of things, which the Chinese are only catching up with now.

That said, I'm still interested in a test drive, and a look at the Model X (they don't have any of those in Shanghai yet, only a couple in Beijing). I'm still interested in buying a model 3, but my enthusiasm has diminished somewhat now that I've seen their cars in the flesh, as opposed to just driving by.

They still have a lot to learn.
 
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