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Driven | Toyota GR Supra
Would I take it over the slightly pricier BMW Z4? Without a shadow of a doubt. This is a brilliant package from the Toyota (and BMW) team and if rumours are true, this is just the beginning of a new Supra generation with lots of variants still to come.
Pricing starts at R953,000 for the GR Supra ‘Track’ model. The standard GR Supra will hit your wallet to the tune of R1,072,300 while the Matte Grey edition will set you back R1,092 300. The base Track model can only be ordered in red, while the top models get a wider choice that includes white, silver, black, yellow and blue.
PRO’s
Styling
Driving dynamics
Power
CON’s
Steering wheel
Dashboard
www.zero2turbo.com
Would I take it over the slightly pricier BMW Z4? Without a shadow of a doubt. This is a brilliant package from the Toyota (and BMW) team and if rumours are true, this is just the beginning of a new Supra generation with lots of variants still to come.
Pricing starts at R953,000 for the GR Supra ‘Track’ model. The standard GR Supra will hit your wallet to the tune of R1,072,300 while the Matte Grey edition will set you back R1,092 300. The base Track model can only be ordered in red, while the top models get a wider choice that includes white, silver, black, yellow and blue.
PRO’s
Styling
Driving dynamics
Power
CON’s
Steering wheel
Dashboard
Driven | Toyota GR Supra
Pricing starts at R953,000 for the GR Supra ‘Track’ model. The standard GR Supra will hit your wallet to the tune of R1,072,300 while the Matte Grey edition will set you back R1,092 300.
www.zero2turbo.com
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What Do I REALLY Think of My New Supra? - Shmee150
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I saw one in Benoni a few days ago. Looks even better in the flesh(?).
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Drag race: BMW Z4 M40i vs Toyota GR Supra vs Ford Mustang GT Fastback - Car Magazine
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Wild And Wide Toyota Supra Headed For SEMA
With the new Toyota Supra out on the roads, you can bet that many tuning houses and companies are getting stuck into the BMW-powered creation and with SEMA around the corner, we will probably see an overload of weird and wild variants.
First to reveal a glimpse is Evasive Motorsports, who will be bringing this heavily bewinged kit to the Las Vegas convention. What do you think of the renders? That’s one hell of a front splitter, isn’t it?
www.zero2turbo.com
With the new Toyota Supra out on the roads, you can bet that many tuning houses and companies are getting stuck into the BMW-powered creation and with SEMA around the corner, we will probably see an overload of weird and wild variants.
First to reveal a glimpse is Evasive Motorsports, who will be bringing this heavily bewinged kit to the Las Vegas convention. What do you think of the renders? That’s one hell of a front splitter, isn’t it?
Wild and Wide Toyota Supra Headed for SEMA
If you’re not a fan of these visual changes, though, don’t worry. There’ll be plenty more companies vying for your Supra attention over the next couple of months.
www.zero2turbo.com
FiestaST
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Why I Actually Prefer The BMW Z4 To The 2020 Toyota Supra
There’s no denying that both the 2020 Toyota GR Supra and the 2020 BMW Z4 M40i are the same car. But they are good cars. Their origins don’t in any way detract from the driving experiences they offer.
If anything, these two are up there among the most potent performance machines available for under $100,000 (please don’t make Corvette C8 jokes).
And the great thing is, they do feel different!
The Supra is definitely aimed at a younger, more driving-oriented buyer, and it does a fantastic job fulfilling that mission. If you haven’t driven recent BMW products, walk inside a Toyota dealer and ask to test drive a Supra, you’re not going to be disappointed. It’s one hell of a sports car, and you’ll be getting a lot of performance for your dollar.
But if you know your cars, if not just a tad, you know the differences between driving a Toyota and driving a BMW. This Supra doesn’t drive, sound, or even smell like a Toyota.
So in that sense, no, the 2020 Toyota Supra doesn’t compare to its predecessor because it’s not a true Japanese effort. It’s too different in too many ways. The fourth-generation car had been developed to, yes, satisfy enthusiasts, but also to showcase Toyota’s engineering know-how against the world, most notably the German carmakers.
Now, it’s the Germans that build the damn thing.
The Z4, on the other hand, arrived in the ring quiet and humble, overshadowed by the hype the Supra had created. It ended up being the car I enjoyed driving the most, either because it offers more as a car, but also because it feels like a genuine BMW effort.
If there’s a higher-level takeaway here, it might be that there should be an unwritten rule in the automotive industry: never outsource your halo car.
Those are the automobiles that attract people into your showroom, the “hey, look what we can do” vehicle that convinces buyers to buy that RAV4 because it shares components with the sports car.
That doesn’t really apply here. As much fun as the new Supra is, its greatness isn’t something Toyota can truly claim for itself.
jalopnik.com
There’s no denying that both the 2020 Toyota GR Supra and the 2020 BMW Z4 M40i are the same car. But they are good cars. Their origins don’t in any way detract from the driving experiences they offer.
If anything, these two are up there among the most potent performance machines available for under $100,000 (please don’t make Corvette C8 jokes).
And the great thing is, they do feel different!
The Supra is definitely aimed at a younger, more driving-oriented buyer, and it does a fantastic job fulfilling that mission. If you haven’t driven recent BMW products, walk inside a Toyota dealer and ask to test drive a Supra, you’re not going to be disappointed. It’s one hell of a sports car, and you’ll be getting a lot of performance for your dollar.
But if you know your cars, if not just a tad, you know the differences between driving a Toyota and driving a BMW. This Supra doesn’t drive, sound, or even smell like a Toyota.
So in that sense, no, the 2020 Toyota Supra doesn’t compare to its predecessor because it’s not a true Japanese effort. It’s too different in too many ways. The fourth-generation car had been developed to, yes, satisfy enthusiasts, but also to showcase Toyota’s engineering know-how against the world, most notably the German carmakers.
Now, it’s the Germans that build the damn thing.
The Z4, on the other hand, arrived in the ring quiet and humble, overshadowed by the hype the Supra had created. It ended up being the car I enjoyed driving the most, either because it offers more as a car, but also because it feels like a genuine BMW effort.
If there’s a higher-level takeaway here, it might be that there should be an unwritten rule in the automotive industry: never outsource your halo car.
Those are the automobiles that attract people into your showroom, the “hey, look what we can do” vehicle that convinces buyers to buy that RAV4 because it shares components with the sports car.
That doesn’t really apply here. As much fun as the new Supra is, its greatness isn’t something Toyota can truly claim for itself.
Why I Actually Prefer The BMW Z4 To The 2020 Toyota Supra
Toyota says the 2020 Supra feels different to drive than its mechanical twin, the 2020 BMW Z4 M40i. Actually, since the start, both carmakers have been hammering about how distinguished each car is, telling us they went off their own separate ways once the shared architecture was laid out.
jalopnik.com
The only reason why I'm commenting here is complex.
I used to be a firm BMW guy, having had multiple different versions on the BMW 3 seres (6 or more can't really remember), which culminated in a E36 4 door M3, which was just amazing, and is one of the three cars I have had which still goes down as one of my top three all time favourites.
But recently, in a search for an affordable, but fun city car I bought a Toyota 86.
I absolutely love that car - in some ways it better than the M3 - because it is proper performance drivers car, being closer to a proper sports car than the M3 ever was.
The M3 had fantastic power, and handled quite well. But it always was a saloon car that performed better than anyone expected.
The 86 is a proper sports car that is a bit short of power - there is a big difference! For the first time, I have a glimpse of what it must be like driving a Porsche or a Ferrari.
That's quite an accomplishment for such a cheap, underpowered car!
So I started taking Toyota's sports car legacy far more seriously than I had before.
I only recently learned that the previous Supra had such enormous respect in the motoring world.
So now that they have launched the latest version. It's quite interesting.
I always thought BMW really knew what they were doing when it came to engine design (as the original M3 showed - they built a giant killer, without needing a turbo or large displacement, which was rock solid, reliable but pulled like a steam train).
So something similar to my 86, with a nice strong BMW engine - what's not to like?
I have yet to actually see the car in the flesh, but to me it sounds like a great car already. And I would definitely get the Toyota, not the Z4, if I had to make the choice now. Based only what Toyota achieved with the 86.
I used to be a firm BMW guy, having had multiple different versions on the BMW 3 seres (6 or more can't really remember), which culminated in a E36 4 door M3, which was just amazing, and is one of the three cars I have had which still goes down as one of my top three all time favourites.
But recently, in a search for an affordable, but fun city car I bought a Toyota 86.
I absolutely love that car - in some ways it better than the M3 - because it is proper performance drivers car, being closer to a proper sports car than the M3 ever was.
The M3 had fantastic power, and handled quite well. But it always was a saloon car that performed better than anyone expected.
The 86 is a proper sports car that is a bit short of power - there is a big difference! For the first time, I have a glimpse of what it must be like driving a Porsche or a Ferrari.
That's quite an accomplishment for such a cheap, underpowered car!
So I started taking Toyota's sports car legacy far more seriously than I had before.
I only recently learned that the previous Supra had such enormous respect in the motoring world.
So now that they have launched the latest version. It's quite interesting.
I always thought BMW really knew what they were doing when it came to engine design (as the original M3 showed - they built a giant killer, without needing a turbo or large displacement, which was rock solid, reliable but pulled like a steam train).
So something similar to my 86, with a nice strong BMW engine - what's not to like?
I have yet to actually see the car in the flesh, but to me it sounds like a great car already. And I would definitely get the Toyota, not the Z4, if I had to make the choice now. Based only what Toyota achieved with the 86.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
SA tuner says it will upgrade new Toyota Supra to around 310 kW!
The folks over at RGMotorsport has already put together a tuning package for the new Toyota Supra, saying their stage one upgrade will push peak power “close to 310 kW”.
The Randburg-based tuner suggests there’s plenty of potential in the latest Supra’s BMW-sourced turbocharged 3,0-litre inline-six, which produces 250 kW and 500 N.m in standard form.
RGM’s stage one upgrade includes a 76 mm “Techniflow” stainless steel exhaust system (as well as a decat downpipe), the benefits of which the firm realises by remapping the B58's electronics. The result, claims the tuner, is a “characterful” exhaust tone and a “plentiful supply of extra kilowatts”.
How much extra, you ask? Well, add a performance air-filter element to the mix and RGM says the A90-generation Supra will “edge close to 310 kW” (no peak torque figure is quoted). That lines up nicely with the upgrade offered by Litchfield over in the United Kingdom.
www.carmag.co.za
The folks over at RGMotorsport has already put together a tuning package for the new Toyota Supra, saying their stage one upgrade will push peak power “close to 310 kW”.
The Randburg-based tuner suggests there’s plenty of potential in the latest Supra’s BMW-sourced turbocharged 3,0-litre inline-six, which produces 250 kW and 500 N.m in standard form.
RGM’s stage one upgrade includes a 76 mm “Techniflow” stainless steel exhaust system (as well as a decat downpipe), the benefits of which the firm realises by remapping the B58's electronics. The result, claims the tuner, is a “characterful” exhaust tone and a “plentiful supply of extra kilowatts”.
How much extra, you ask? Well, add a performance air-filter element to the mix and RGM says the A90-generation Supra will “edge close to 310 kW” (no peak torque figure is quoted). That lines up nicely with the upgrade offered by Litchfield over in the United Kingdom.
SA tuner says it will upgrade new Toyota Supra to around 310 kW! - CAR Magazine
The folks over at RGMotorsport has already put together a tuning package for the new Toyota Supra, saying their stage one upgrade will push peak […]
www.carmag.co.za
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RGMotorsport Toyota Supra Stage 1 Should Produce Up To 415 HP (310 KW)
Local tuner RGMotorsport received the new Toyota Supra a few weeks back to begin putting together a tuning package for the MK5.
The Stage 1 upgrade consists of a 76mm Techniflow exhaust system with a decat downpipe and a simple ECU remap. The tuner claims it now produces a “characterful” exhaust tone and of course it gets a gain in power.
www.zero2turbo.com
Local tuner RGMotorsport received the new Toyota Supra a few weeks back to begin putting together a tuning package for the MK5.
The Stage 1 upgrade consists of a 76mm Techniflow exhaust system with a decat downpipe and a simple ECU remap. The tuner claims it now produces a “characterful” exhaust tone and of course it gets a gain in power.
RGMotorsport Toyota Supra Stage 1 Should Produce Up To 415 HP (310 kW)
Being RGMotorsport, it will not end at Stage 1 so we can expect more potent packages soon.
www.zero2turbo.com
FiestaST
Honorary Master
SA Tuner Creates 310 kW Toyota Supra
With the hype of the Toyota Supra launch subsiding, attention now turns to the tuners who will be rubbing their hands in anticipation. The previous-gen Supra was very tunable and hopes are high that the new one is just as responsive. A South African tuning outfit is claiming 310 kW from its Supra project.
Gauteng-based RG Motorsport are well-known for their bakkie and Mustang projects, but have started working on the all-new Toyota Supra.
Powered by the B58 3.0-litre straight-6 engine, the Supra develops 250 kW and 500 Nm from the factory. However, RG Motorsport have developed a Stage One upgrade comprising a dual Techniflow 76 mm stainless steel exhaust, decatted exhaust downpipe, performance air filter and a software remap. RG Motorsport claims 310 kW for the Supra on the dyno, putting that power figure somewhere around the 350 kW mark.
www.cars.co.za
With the hype of the Toyota Supra launch subsiding, attention now turns to the tuners who will be rubbing their hands in anticipation. The previous-gen Supra was very tunable and hopes are high that the new one is just as responsive. A South African tuning outfit is claiming 310 kW from its Supra project.
Gauteng-based RG Motorsport are well-known for their bakkie and Mustang projects, but have started working on the all-new Toyota Supra.
Powered by the B58 3.0-litre straight-6 engine, the Supra develops 250 kW and 500 Nm from the factory. However, RG Motorsport have developed a Stage One upgrade comprising a dual Techniflow 76 mm stainless steel exhaust, decatted exhaust downpipe, performance air filter and a software remap. RG Motorsport claims 310 kW for the Supra on the dyno, putting that power figure somewhere around the 350 kW mark.
SA Tuner Creates 310 kW Toyota Supra
With the hype of the Toyota Supra launch subsiding, attention now turns to the tuners who will be rubbing their hands in anticipation. The previous-gen Supra was very tunable and hopes are high that the new one is just as responsive. A South African tuning outfit is claiming 310 kW from its...
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My Supra NEEDS THIS Exhaust from the Manhart MHZ4 440! - Shmee150
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Small Toyota Supra Safety Recall From… BMW
The Toyota Supra is starting to flood the roads around the world but seven of these units are now affected by a voluntary safety recall.
On September 12, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced campaign number 19V653000. It’s a voluntary safety recall involving the seat belt guide loop mount for the 2020 Toyota Supra, which may have been welded improperly. As mentioned, only seven vehicles are affected but the funny side is that the recall came from BMW.
The biggest criticism to befall the new Supra is its major connection to BMW. Pretty much everything beneath the sports car’s skin is shared with the BMW Z4, and inside the car it is no different.
For those arguing that the Supra is simply a rebadged BMW you can smile and wave but having driven both, we are completely unphased by this.
www.zero2turbo.com
The Toyota Supra is starting to flood the roads around the world but seven of these units are now affected by a voluntary safety recall.
On September 12, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced campaign number 19V653000. It’s a voluntary safety recall involving the seat belt guide loop mount for the 2020 Toyota Supra, which may have been welded improperly. As mentioned, only seven vehicles are affected but the funny side is that the recall came from BMW.
The biggest criticism to befall the new Supra is its major connection to BMW. Pretty much everything beneath the sports car’s skin is shared with the BMW Z4, and inside the car it is no different.
For those arguing that the Supra is simply a rebadged BMW you can smile and wave but having driven both, we are completely unphased by this.
Small Toyota Supra Safety Recall from... BMW
For those arguing that the Supra is simply a rebadged BMW you can smile and wave but having driven both, we are completely unphased by this.
www.zero2turbo.com
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10 units sold last month:
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DRAG RACE: Toyota GR Supra 3,0T vs BMW M2 Competition M-DCT - CAR Magazine
