The Toyota Supra Thread

WATCH | Out with the new, in with the old - This 2JZ swapped A90 Supra shows it does not mess about

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WATCH | Out with the new, in with the old - This 2JZ swapped A90 Supra shows it does not mess about | Life

A Japanese drifter swapped the engine of a fourth-generation Toyota Supra into the chassis of the brand new A90 launched earlier this year. Respect or madness, you decide.
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New Supra Wrecked After Less Than 1,000km

Whenever a new performance or sportscar comes out, it’s usually only a matter of time before one example’s owner runs out of talent, or simply has some bad luck. While the new Toyota Supra is not the most powerful car on the market, 335 horsepower (250 kW) is still enough to ensure the car can get out of shape. Recently, a new 2020 Supra popped up on Iaai.com’s website. The only slight issue is that the front of the car is pretty much written off.

Whoever purchased the car brand new wasn’t even able to enjoy his/her prized possession for that long. According to the website, the car only has 927 kilometres on the clock. While its engine may not have been run in, it most certainly ran into something else.

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New Supra Wrecked After Less Than 1,000km

According to the website, the car is estimated to cost just over $40 000 (approx. R588 000) to fix up.
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Nobody Is Cross-Shopping The Toyota Supra With Anything Else

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Nobody Is Cross-Shopping The Toyota Supra With Anything Else - Jalopnik

The 2020 Toyota Supra. Dun dun duuuuuun. The Goliath. The all-powerful, Japanese tuning legend, whose predecessor’s iron-heart struck fear and wonder into the quaking souls of Italian exotics. This is the new one, and it has some pretty big shoes to fill.Look, there are things we like and don’t...
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I was at a Toyota dealer the other day and asked about Supra sales so far.

They said (no idea if this is correct though) that only three had sold so far in Joburg, of which one had already been written off.

Which is the other thing I find quite strange about this car. Everyone seems to be in a race to increase its power.

But apparently this car, in stock form can reliably produce about 380 hp, which 285 kW - which is quite a lot of power - can the average driver actually handle that sort of power on normal roads?

Which probably explains why one has already been written off?

The other thing I suppose is finding the right market. Many sports cars are bought to display status, wealth and prestige, the actual performance of the car is secondary to the effect you have on the girls when you arrive in a Ferrari for example.

A Toyota doesn't quite have the same pull unfortunately.

So the target market for the Supra are dedicated enthusiasts who are actually buying the car for performance, not status. Which is quite a small market. And in that market, the Porshe Cayman is probably a better option at not much higher price (that's the car I would buy at this price point). Plus the Porshe does have more status and prestige as well.
 
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I was at a Toyota dealer the other day and asked about Supra sales so far.

They said (no idea if this is correct though) that only three had sold so far in Joburg, of which one had already been written off.

Which is the other thing I find quite strange about this car. Everyone seems to be in a race to increase its power.

But apparently this car, in stock form can reliably produce about 380 hp, which 285 kW - which is quite a lot of power - can the average driver actually handle that sort of power on normal roads?

Which probably explains why one has already been written off?

The other thing I suppose is finding the right market. Many sports cars are bought to display status, wealth and prestige, the actual performance of the car is secondary to the effect you have on the girls when you arrive in a Ferrari for example.

A Toyota doesn't quite have the same pull unfortunately.

So the target market for the Supra are dedicated enthusiasts who are actually buying the car for performance, not status. Which is quite a small market. And in that market, the Porshe Cayman is probably a better option at not much higher price (that's the car I would buy at this price point). Plus the Porshe does have more status and prestige as well.
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That was the pull of the Supra before this one: the upgrade potential of the 2JZ engine. It was never about getting the girls the Ferrari guy had. It was about destroying the Ferrari in a straight line with a car that cost a fraction of the price.

The Supra wasn't a car you bought if you wanted pussy. It's the car you bought if you wanted unlimited power.

They tried to translate that into the new version with very mixed results - I don't think people have exactly rushed out to get one (I still haven't seen one in the wild here in the UK for example). I wouldn't be surprised if the BMW is doing better - after all, that's the brand you'd expect to spend that type of money on, not a Toyota.

Of course, they couldn't justify building it for cheaper, so it's going to be an expensive car for what you're expecting to get (the interior, compared to the BMW at pretty much the same price, is ****). And after spending so much, unless you're one of the old Top Secret guys, you're probably not going to want to spend money on upgrades that are the same value as the car.

That's the thing with Supra: you either get it, or you don't.
 
Ja I was thinking the same thing, what Toyota should have done, is found some way to make it much cheaper than the competition, then it snaps into focus.

But unfortunately they couldn't.

I do get the allure of the Supra heritage. I recently got a 86 and absolutely love that car, and appreciate the amount of dedicated thought and passion that went into its design.

Which is why I've been interested in the Supra.

On paper I think it's a very nice car, and from what I've read probably the better option than the Z4.

But for the money I would buy a Cayman!

All hypothetical in any case...
 
saw a new supra today , very weired looking car , its gonna flop big time in SA.It just doesnt have that x factor the old one had.
 
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saw a new supra today , very weired looking car , its gonna flop big time in SA.It just doesnt have that x factor the old one had.
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Smelling moerse bias here. You've been a new Supra hater since day one.

Having said that styling is very much subjective. Generally the "professionals" ie. journalists; influencers like the look of it. (Insert paid for reviews, I am referring to the quality people.)

I am personally a fan of most angles especially the rear three quarter.

Wrt sales volume it was never meant be a volume car in (any) market but rather serve as an aspirational or halo vehicle for the brand.
 
Just because the influencers and the journalists like it doesnt mean you must believe them.Ive hated it since day 1 because its just a plain weired looking.Generally with me i can look at a car and immediately will hate it or like.This one is just meh.
 
ubercal said:
Just because the influencers and the journalists like it doesnt mean you must believe them.Ive hated it since day 1 because its just a plain weired looking.Generally with me i can look at a car and immediately will hate it or like.This one is just meh.
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That's the amazing thing about opinions. Just like assholes, everyone has one.

No one is "telling me" to like it. I like it out of my own accord.

We have already established the "flop vs low sales volume" theory.
 
FiestaST said:
That's the amazing thing about opinions. Just like assholes, everyone has one.

No one is "telling me" to like it. I like it out of my own accord.

We have already established the "flop vs low sales volume" theory.
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so we can agree to disagree :thumbsup:
 
New Toyota Supra By AC Schnitzer

The new Toyota Supra is one of the most talked-about cars of recent times and yes we know the link to BMW is strong. So strong in fact that BMW tuning specialist, AC Schnitzer is now offering new components and upgrades for a Toyota for the first time in their history.

Under the hood, they crank the six-cylinder engine up to 294 kW with 100 Nm of additional torque. The tuner did not release what the extra grunt does to the performance figures but it should shave a tenth or so off the 100 km/h sprint time of 4.3 seconds.

There are a handful of exterior components giving the Supra a lot more presence. This includes a new front splitter, carbon bonnet vents and a carbon “racing” wing which can be spec’d with or without a Gurney flap.

At the rear, you will find new exhausts which apparently “offers a sonorous sound and a sporty look thanks to two tailpipes in carbon or black anodised stainless steel.”

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New Toyota Supra by AC Schnitzer

AC Schnitzer is now offering new components and upgrades for a Toyota for the first time in their history.
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BMW specialist AC Schnitzer beefs up the A90-generation Toyota Supra

BMW specialist AC Schnitzer has expanded its brand portfolio by creating an aftermarket upgrade for the new Toyota GR Supra.

Considering this Japanese sportscar is based on the BMW Z4 platform, the move makes sense. The tuner is offering all sorts of kit for the A90-generation model, including a comprehensive aero package, a slight bump in power and updates to the suspension, wheels, exhaust system, interior trim.

Retaining the twin-scroll turbocharged 3,0-litre straight-six, AC Schnitzer has fitted its in-house engine optics ECU which pushes power up from the standard 250 kW and 500 N.m of torque to 294 kW and 600 N.m. Sound is improved by a rear silencer with one carbon “Sport” or “Sport Black” tailpipes each side.

Handling is updated as well courtesy of AC Schnitzer’s adjustable RS suspension, which lowers the car by 25 mm. For those who seek a less intense ride, a 15 mm spring kit is available, too. The suspension works in conjunction with a set of 20-inch AC3 Lightweight or AC1 Leichtmetallfelgen forged alloy wheels.

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BMW specialist AC Schnitzer beefs up the A90-generation Toyota Supra - CAR Magazine

BMW specialist AC Schnitzer has expanded its brand portfolio by creating an aftermarket upgrade for the new Toyota GR Supra. Considering this Japanese sportscar is […]
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