r00igev@@r

Executive Member
- international submarine cable failures
- FNO networks going titsup
- going crazy because of lockdown
- any other topic
We have a watercooler that can be adapted for various liquids as well as a tape deck that plays mostly eighties music.

r00igev@@r

Executive Member
Arrived at the watercooler to discuss why we should use binary and not decimal for measuring line speeds. As an example, iBurst was a 1 Mb/s service that was 1024Kbps.
So I disagree with @ginggs that it was decimal.

ginggs

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Have you ever looked at what size your operating system reports for a 1TB hard disk???? The buggers short change us there as well.
Disk /dev/sda: 55.92 GiB, 60022480896 bytes, 117231408 sectors
Disk model: INTEL SSDSC2CT06
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

And compare sizes of 8GB USB, SD or CF cards and they're all different, and none of them are big enough to hold the contents of an 8GB RAM module (8589934592 bytes).

ginggs

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Arrived at the watercooler to discuss why we should use binary and not decimal for measuring line speeds. As an example, iBurst was a 1 Mb/s service that was 1024Kbps.
From:
The decimal SI definition, 1 kbit/s = 1000 bit/s, is used uniformly in the context of telecommunication transmission speeds.

Yster21

Senior Member
1 kibi = 1,024
1 kilo = 1,000

This has been sorted out more than a decade ago. Most of us just never caught on.

ginggs

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Super Moderator
1 kibi = 1,024
1 kilo = 1,000
As prefixes, yes, but a kilobyte (KB) is 1024 bytes because you can't make a memory chip with 1000 bytes.

Yster21

Senior Member
As prefixes, yes, but a kilobyte (KB) is 1024 bytes because you can't make a memory chip with 1000 bytes.

Then just call it a kibibyte.

ginggs

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In other news, I'm very much enjoying my temporary 200/20 speeds:

Thanks Cool Ideas and Vumatel!

jannier

Expert Member
In other news, I'm very much enjoying my temporary 200/20 speeds:

Thanks Cool Ideas and Vumatel!

And I can surely not complain about my 1000/100 speeds:

Speedtest by Ookla

Server: Coreix Ltd - London (id = 8066)
ISP: Cool-ideas
Latency: 141.58 ms (0.14 ms jitter)
Upload: 105.46 Mbps (data used: 97.5 MB)
Packet Loss: 0.0%

r00igev@@r

Executive Member
I'm only getting my normal 40 on Openserve.
From:
So we delivered more than what we promised.

TheRoDent

Cool Ideas Rep
Kilobits will always be factor 1024 for me. Don't know who decided that a kibibit should be factor 1024.

Sounds like "kibble" to me.

r00igev@@r

Executive Member
Who remembers Winston the Pigeon?

ginggs

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Super Moderator
Good old RFC 1149.

Gambit

Expert Member
Good old RFC 1149.

A classic example of high latency and high bandwidth.

r00igev@@r

Executive Member
Changes the music on the tape deck:

r00igev@@r

Executive Member
So at 4pm on Thursday 23/4 there is a lockdown meeting on the Jitsi at this location: https://meet.amastelek.com/watercooler
The purpose is to see how many people can join the virtual watercooler. If you have a lockdown story/nightmare to share then you have an audience. @ginggs please attend and not in your PJs.