The Virtual Machine Thread

vm ware is seeking too muuch system resources...


how does virtualbox compare???
 
Well I have been using Virtual Machine's for about 4 years now. Really useful, whats great you can really experiment without the risk of damaging your machine. To be honest I have never really liked the "free" virtual machines, they can be unstable slow and down right unpredictable.

If you really get into it, use Vmware, personally I feel its the best you can get
 
@ The_Librarian

I'm using VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 with 2 gigs of ram, and the storage is on an eSATA drive. The twist is that the machine is also the school server. Bad practice but for now I don't have any other machine to play with. Host OS is Windows 2003. VirtualBox runs pretty darn well. I even ran Vista with 768MB ram and it ran ok.

Pity about your QEMU images not working though. I had a feeling it wouldn't.
Have you installed the "Guest Addtions" ISO into your virtual machines?

@ Ninja

Make sure the machine you are using as a host has access to the internet, and is not running through a web proxy or such. In Vbox, on your virtual machine, make sure you have a network card "installed" and set to the type NAT.

Inside your guest operating system, make sure you have set it to get it's address via DHCP. Vbox will give it an address and you will be able to surf the net. Not sure about torrents or e-mail and so on.

If you select "Host Interface", you end up installing a virtual network adapter on your host, with it's own unique address and so on, and it can get confusing.

Lastly, install the "Guest Additions" ISO that comes with Vbox into each of your virtual machines. That has the network card driver in there for operating systems that don't have it built in.
 
Linoman said:
Well I have been using Virtual Machine's for about 4 years now. Really useful, whats great you can really experiment without the risk of damaging your machine. To be honest I have never really liked the "free" virtual machines, they can be unstable slow and down right unpredictable.

If you really get into it, use Vmware, personally I feel its the best you can get
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Agreed 100%

VMWare is the way to go if you are serious about vm's.
Worth the money!
 
Asha'man X said:
@ The_Librarian

I'm using VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 with 2 gigs of ram, and the storage is on an eSATA drive. The twist is that the machine is also the school server. Bad practice but for now I don't have any other machine to play with. Host OS is Windows 2003. VirtualBox runs pretty darn well. I even ran Vista with 768MB ram and it ran ok.

Pity about your QEMU images not working though. I had a feeling it wouldn't.
Have you installed the "Guest Addtions" ISO into your virtual machines?

@ Ninja

Make sure the machine you are using as a host has access to the internet, and is not running through a web proxy or such. In Vbox, on your virtual machine, make sure you have a network card "installed" and set to the type NAT.

Inside your guest operating system, make sure you have set it to get it's address via DHCP. Vbox will give it an address and you will be able to surf the net. Not sure about torrents or e-mail and so on.

If you select "Host Interface", you end up installing a virtual network adapter on your host, with it's own unique address and so on, and it can get confusing.

Lastly, install the "Guest Additions" ISO that comes with Vbox into each of your virtual machines. That has the network card driver in there for operating systems that don't have it built in.
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Where does one get this guest addition ISO? :confused:

Hunted all over virtualbox's website, but no cigar :(

Thanks! :)
 
Linoman said:
Well I have been using Virtual Machine's for about 4 years now. Really useful, whats great you can really experiment without the risk of damaging your machine. To be honest I have never really liked the "free" virtual machines, they can be unstable slow and down right unpredictable.

If you really get into it, use Vmware, personally I feel its the best you can get
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Erm, VMWare is free.
 
Asha'man X said:
@ The_Librarian

I'm using VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 with 2 gigs of ram, and the storage is on an eSATA drive. The twist is that the machine is also the school server. Bad practice but for now I don't have any other machine to play with. Host OS is Windows 2003. VirtualBox runs pretty darn well. I even ran Vista with 768MB ram and it ran ok.

Pity about your QEMU images not working though. I had a feeling it wouldn't.
Have you installed the "Guest Addtions" ISO into your virtual machines?

@ Ninja

Make sure the machine you are using as a host has access to the internet, and is not running through a web proxy or such. In Vbox, on your virtual machine, make sure you have a network card "installed" and set to the type NAT.

Inside your guest operating system, make sure you have set it to get it's address via DHCP. Vbox will give it an address and you will be able to surf the net. Not sure about torrents or e-mail and so on.

If you select "Host Interface", you end up installing a virtual network adapter on your host, with it's own unique address and so on, and it can get confusing.

Lastly, install the "Guest Additions" ISO that comes with Vbox into each of your virtual machines. That has the network card driver in there for operating systems that don't have it built in.
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Ahhh thanks :D:D:D will try that at home
The_Librarian said:
Where does one get this guest addition ISO? :confused:

Hunted all over virtualbox's website, but no cigar :(

Thanks! :)
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It's built into the Vbox, get a virtual machine running and check the toolbar
 
Using a P4 2.3GHz 765GB pc I've run VMware worksation/ VMware server/MS Virtual PC.

VMware worksation is the best performer, but not free.
VMware server is free and has run all OS's I've tried, quite successfully, even although my RAM was far too small - I've bumped it to 1.5GB.
MS VPC really didn't perform and always demanded more hos resources than either of the VMware's.

If you are having performance issues, make sure that the vm isn't isn't too much memory. If you set the memory size too big. you will find that the vmhost starts getting swapped out by the host OS, which will make the whole machine pretty unusable. If the memory in the vm is set too low, the vm OS will start swapping, which will kill the performance, just as it would if you run XP, say, on a 256MB machine.

For any kind of vm, the host machine should have big a memory as possible, 2GB upwards if at all possible.

Finally, if you really want performance, the vm host OS should be run on a bare metal machine i.e. not hosted by a general OS such as Windows. VMware esx (no, not free) runs like this and many large corporates are running large server farms on this type of configuration. Some of the enterprise servers are now being shipped with a cut down version of ESX (ESX3i) installed as default!.
 
Win98 in Virtualbox - Internet access :D

WinNT4 in QEmu - Internet access - downloading firefox atm :D

Thanks Chiskop!!! :D
 
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chiskop said:
Cool, but why would you want to surf from the "luxury" and "comfort" of win98? :confused:

Have you set up shared folders and USB?
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Not yet.

Picking up an anomaly with Qemu - the mouse goes all bonkers after a few minutes of use :confused: but virtualbox seems to be fine

will experiment later tonight :D
 
Experiment for Ninja: Install a VM and a guest OS of your choice. Now, on your guest OS, install a VM and another guest OS. Then, in that guest OS, install a VM and guest...etc.

I want to see how far down you can go before the universe turns in an itself. :)
 
Hey guys, any chance of this scenario:

Run a virtual machine in Ubuntu (say XP), load the software for my phone onto the virtual machine and access HSDPA through the virtual machine in Ubuntu not the virtual machine. (i.e just minimise the xp virtual machine window)
 
Velenoso said:
Hey guys, any chance of this scenario:

Run a virtual machine in Ubuntu (say XP), load the software for my phone onto the virtual machine and access HSDPA through the virtual machine in Ubuntu not the virtual machine. (i.e just minimise the xp virtual machine window)
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Theoretically it should work... but the problem will be with the routing... so your host OS will have to route through the client VM...
 
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