the Wine (Windows under Linux) thread

Spent Saturday and yesterday playing around with wine.

Heroes of Might and Magic 3 works with no problem.
The expansion packs, Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death, both require a noCD version of the exe to work - must be something to do with the copy protection. One thing though, on closing the session, all windows of other apps are maximized and the garbled taskbar icons are very much present (kubuntu 8.10).

Another thing that is a bit worrying though, seeing that noCD versions of the exes must be used, how does wine handle viruses?
 
BigAl-sa said:
Spent Saturday and yesterday playing around with wine.

Heroes of Might and Magic 3 works with no problem.
The expansion packs, Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death, both require a noCD version of the exe to work - must be something to do with the copy protection. One thing though, on closing the session, all windows of other apps are maximized and the garbled taskbar icons are very much present (kubuntu 8.10).

Another thing that is a bit worrying though, seeing that noCD versions of the exes must be used, how does wine handle viruses?
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WINE simply uses a folder inside Linux with a mock-makeup of Windows, containing a couple of needed libraries. The virus wouldn't know what to do, firstly..... and secondly, if it did, a Windows virus can hardly touch Linux. I had an infected program running under Wine once... some trojan or something.... did absolutely nothing to Linux :D
 
Someone actually tested all the viruses he could find on WINE, made for hilarious reading.

The absolute worst that could happen is that you would need to rm -r .wine and reinstall the applications you need in WINE.
 
MyWorld said:
Someone actually tested all the viruses he could find on WINE, made for hilarious reading.

The absolute worst that could happen is that you would need to rm -r .wine and reinstall the applications you need in WINE.
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Now *that* is what I'll call security... that's the way things should have been from the beginning.

Expect more poxy virii and trojans to be produced, and make windows a living hell :D

But, back to the topic. :)

Some games which refer to the CD will bomb out because there's no C: or D:, and this will require a lot of fiddling to get to run.
 
guys, has anyone got CSS running under wine? Mine works when you want to play vs bots, but i cant get it to connect to the saix server online. It bombs out.. :( any help?
 
I'm dying to get my hands on a second hand copy of CSS to test out, but I never had any trouble with CS 1.4.
 
D@rk_4ngel said:
guys, has anyone got CSS running under wine? Mine works when you want to play vs bots, but i cant get it to connect to the saix server online. It bombs out.. :( any help?
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I have CSS running but first I need to get my multiplayer issues sorted. Gives me some kind of funky error...
 
Total Annihilation works with no hassles (haven't tried the expansion pack yet).

Myth: The fallen lord comes up with an error: insufficient memory, close some apps. I have a feeling it maybe a copy protection thing, but the copy protection wasn't so hot in those days. What's interesting, on the wine app list, Myth: tfl gets a platinum rating :confused: I can't find a noCD version on my usual haunts either.
 
BigAl-sa said:
Total Annihilation works with no hassles (haven't tried the expansion pack yet).
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If you go into the in game options panel (F2), the game goes into pause mode. As soon as you click on resume, Linux crashes (first time I've managed to crash Linux). This means you can't load a saved game.

BigAl-sa said:
Myth: The fallen lord comes up with an error: insufficient memory, close some apps. I have a feeling it maybe a copy protection thing, but the copy protection wasn't so hot in those days. What's interesting, on the wine app list, Myth: tfl gets a platinum rating :confused: I can't find a noCD version on my usual haunts either.
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By running pe.exe, you can get rid of the memory error. The game runs, but the mouse click location is way off. You need to patch the game to v1.5. I also had to change the screen rendering mode from OpenGL to software. The v1.5 patch also makes the game a noCD version.
 
Empiricism Philosopher said:
Does using wine gives you security risk or emulates them?
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First of Wine is not an emulator.

Now to answer your question: Wine on its own isn't any security risk(meaning I don't know of any vulnerability) but running a virus/trojan infected executable on wine should execute that malware and the malware will try to do the same on wine that it will try to do on a Windows machine.

But now you must remember wine runs in user-space. So the malware will only infect your user-space and not your whole system like on Windows XP(I don't know how vista deals with this) and the malware will only be able to run when you excute wine or a wine application it infected.

Hope this answers your question.

Regards,
 
'Ello peeps

When i run Garmaps in Wine i can't expand the view, it sits on the top left of the screen. What to do ?

Thanks
 
Thugscub said:
'Ello peeps

When i run Garmaps in Wine i can't expand the view, it sits on the top left of the screen. What to do ?

Thanks
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Ok I'm going out on a limp here and this only work on my Desktop environment because I enabled Compiz Fusion(It might work by default on gnome running metacity).

But If click on a window with mouse button 1(Left Click) and hold in <alt> I can move the window. This means I can click anywhere on the window and move it.

I can also resize the window by pressing mouse button 2(Middle Click) and hold in <alt> then I can resize the window. Without adjusting my mouse to the window border. If you only have a 2 button mouse(Left and Right) you can simulate a Middle click by holding in both mouse buttons.

If the above failed you can try some terminal voodoo using wmctrl. If you are running a debian based system you can install it using:

Code: 
aptitude install wmctrl

and after you installed it have a look at the man pages:

Code: 
man wmctrl

Regards,
 
Wine is experimental, and was never meant to replace Windows OS on Linux. There is an extensive list of programs that run on WINEavaliable from their website; but even then there is no guarantee that the program meant to run on native Windows will run on GNU/Linux-<distro> well or at all.

My bet would be to dual-boot if you must run the Windows program.
 
If wine doesn't work, you can always try CrossOver (it's based on WINE).
I wanted to use outlook 07 (best email client imho) but I couldn't get it working using wine.

Installed CrossOver pro... And it worked. easy. Photoshop CS3 also works fine (but I'm not an artist, so there may be some bugs I haven't found)
 
floyd said:
If wine doesn't work, you can always try CrossOver (it's based on WINE).
I wanted to use outlook 07 (best email client imho) but I couldn't get it working using wine.

Installed CrossOver pro... And it worked. easy. Photoshop CS3 also works fine (but I'm not an artist, so there may be some bugs I haven't found)
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It's not based on Wine, closer to react OS. Requires a license too :(
 
The programs are modified, proprietary versions of the public Wine source tree with various compatibility patches added, more user-friendly configuration tools and commercial support.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossOver

Yep. first program I pirated for linux. It felt weird...
It was only for experimental purposes though. so I removed it immediatly. :)
 
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