There is some serious WP tile interface envy amongst Android users...?

[Sl8er]

Just keep in mind that Launcher 7 is actually a pretty terrible copy of WP. Use an actual device to see it.

Yeah, I would guess as much. I mainly did it to see whether I could actually get used to the tile idea. I totally did. So if I enjoyed this, I'm sure the real thing would work for me as well. The main point I was trying to make is that if this wasn't possible on android, I wouldn't have considered it. (I wouldn't have gone to a store to play with or muck around. That said, someone I know would've probably gotten it and then I may have been exposed to it, but otherwise, my point stands )

 

[semaphore]

I hear you can connect a PS3 controller onto a Windows Phone and play games via Bluetooth, and it has native support for Kinect and you can control a DSLR via USB. Also Windows Phone has the ability to read off USB Drivers and Airplay + DLNA support. From what I hear Windows Phone can also be used on TV's and even run off a USB stick. You can even use a Keyboard and mouse on the phone if you want.

Oh wait!!! that's Android, my bad.

Yes because im going to buy a phone so i can play PS3 with it.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Yes because im going to buy a phone so i can play PS3 with it.

If that is all you got from it then I recon you have a comprehension problem, but do not worry I get it. You want a phone to be just that, a phone.

I just want a portable personal computer, Windows Phone promises to be one, but its not, well not yet. I thought merging the Windows Kernel to a mobile would convert it to one, so far I am not very impressed by the lack of support on that front. Things may change.

As for innovation, Windows Phone can not do half the functionality of what android is capable of yet old McCrazieGoalz recons Android is not innovative... go figure.

 

[Pienats]

Yep. Its amazing the kind of innovation that you find on Android.

They can do what other OSes do (iOS and WP) on their (Android) devices. Ingenious. Highly innovative.

There is a big difference between adapting a system to devices different from the ones they were originally produced for (like how Android is of iOS) to innovating (i.e. coming up with something completely different - like how Win8/WP8 is to Android a la iOS).

You do realize there are many things that Android did that some if not all the other OSes can't do yet (and those that can took it quite some time). Widgets come to mind, NFC, etc. But yes, I guess those aren't innovative, and neither is making the stock system quite flexible, as it isn't patenting something that has been done for years by plenty of other people, companies, etc.

 

[AstroTurf]

Would this app be in existance in Google play store if there wasn't a market for Android users who wish they had a Windows tiles interface?

[video=youtube;id6kW3_2meE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id6kW3_2meE[/video]

I think not.

And I wonder how well that app is doing. It would be interesting to find out round about now.

You might say but there is also an app that makes Android look like iOS. Well, we all know that Google and Samsung came up with an all encampassing app for that. That one which includes the hardware too. Even though there is really no need for another app to make Android look like iOS a few nevertheless can still be found in Google play store.

I have had a windows xp interface on my phone as well.
It's all fine and well just playing with the device and all.
At least the above app does not take 16GB of space

 

[semaphore]

If that is all you got from it then I recon you have a comprehension problem, but do not worry I get it. You want a phone to be just that, a phone.

I just want a portable personal computer, Windows Phone promises to be one, but its not, well not yet. I thought merging the Windows Kernel to a mobile would convert it to one, so far I am not very impressed by the lack of support on that front. Things may change.

As for innovation, Windows Phone can not do half the functionality of what android is capable of yet old McCrazieGoalz recons Android is not innovative... go figure.

Nope i do a lot of different things with my phone, however trying to connect my phone to a PS3 would not be on my priority list. That being said everything i currently do on my android i will be able to do on my nokia. That being i have no problem with android idea itself. But watching current market trends i believe that the new W8 phones are going to make a decent wave in the mobile space.

I fail to see how a kernel merge would do anything for you most if not everything you need from a API perspective is available as its almost an entire subset of the .NET api. And i guess if you need otherstuff (which i doubt) you can go the invoke route.

Capability is only limited by the imagination of the developer, and W8 has a rather large amount of fun things exposed in it.

 

[Syphonx]

Yip there must be some serious envy of WP tiles, the paid and free version of launcher 7 have been downloaded about 43 000 times! against an install base of 560 000 000 +- gives an amazing 0.0076% of android owners with OMG!!! COLOURED SQUARES!!!!111!! envy. You're really clutching at straws with this one, even more so than Jessica Alba the tech advisor. Oh yeah and that launcher looks like ass by the way, even worse than touchwizz.

 

[DominionZA]

I hear you can connect a PS3 controller onto a Windows Phone and play games via Bluetooth, and it has native support for Kinect and you can control a DSLR via USB. Also Windows Phone has the ability to read off USB Drivers and Airplay + DLNA support. From what I hear Windows Phone can also be used on TV's and even run off a USB stick. You can even use a Keyboard and mouse on the phone if you want.

Oh wait!!! that's Android, my bad.

Love it

 

[AlphaJohn]

Ok here is a rant.

Microsoft keeps on advertising how Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 are bringing together the world as never before but what they neglect to tell you is that you have to buy things twice if you want them on both your phone and your tablet, even the Windows RT one. Not so "together" as what they make it out to be.

Example if you want to play angry birds on your phone and your tablet you have to visit 2 totally diffrent markets that does not link to each other: See Angry Birds:
Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/angry-birds/7f48eacf-1239-4877-88a4-abe9d3ddfad7
Tablet http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-US/app/angry-birds-space/8ece2571-91e0-4f2f-b7e5-b0b7944ced2d

At least on iOS and Android you can buy the Phone version and use it on both your tablet/phone if they in the same ecosystem. This gets worse when some of the iOS/Android developers ship same apps with different UIs in one package for a single price.

Talk about forced double dipping Microsoft.

 

[Pienats]

Ok here is a rant.

Microsoft keeps on advertising how Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 are bringing together the world as never before but what they neglect to tell you is that you have to buy things twice if you want them on both your phone and your tablet, even the Windows RT one. Not so "together" as what they make it out to be.

Example if you want to play angry birds on your phone and your tablet you have to visit 2 totally diffrent markets that does not link to each other: See Angry Birds:
Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/angry-birds/7f48eacf-1239-4877-88a4-abe9d3ddfad7
Tablet http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-US/app/angry-birds-space/8ece2571-91e0-4f2f-b7e5-b0b7944ced2d

At least on iOS and Android you can buy the Phone version and use it on both your tablet/phone if they in the same ecosystem. This gets worse when some of the iOS/Android developers ship same apps with different UIs in one package for a single price.

Talk about forced double dipping Microsoft.

That must be part of the "innovation" McCrazieGoalz is talking about....

 

[TJ99]

If that is all you got from it then I recon you have a comprehension problem, but do not worry I get it. You want a phone to be just that, a phone.

I just want a portable personal computer, Windows Phone promises to be one, but its not, well not yet. I thought merging the Windows Kernel to a mobile would convert it to one, so far I am not very impressed by the lack of support on that front. Things may change.

As for innovation, Windows Phone can not do half the functionality of what android is capable of yet old McCrazieGoalz recons Android is not innovative... go figure.

I actually hoped Windows Phony would do this as well (you know, like Windows Mobile did eons ago, before Android even existed). Instead, Microsoft seems more interested in making personal computers into giant, super-expensive, non-portable phones, instead of making phones that work like a portable computer. I guess that's one way to "converge" things.

 

[semaphore]

Ok here is a rant.

Microsoft keeps on advertising how Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 are bringing together the world as never before but what they neglect to tell you is that you have to buy things twice if you want them on both your phone and your tablet, even the Windows RT one. Not so "together" as what they make it out to be.

Example if you want to play angry birds on your phone and your tablet you have to visit 2 totally diffrent markets that does not link to each other: See Angry Birds:
Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/angry-birds/7f48eacf-1239-4877-88a4-abe9d3ddfad7
Tablet http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-US/app/angry-birds-space/8ece2571-91e0-4f2f-b7e5-b0b7944ced2d

At least on iOS and Android you can buy the Phone version and use it on both your tablet/phone if they in the same ecosystem. This gets worse when some of the iOS/Android developers ship same apps with different UIs in one package for a single price.

Talk about forced double dipping Microsoft.

Why would you want to play angry birds? yeah because Apple does not have at all such a draconian app store policies lol. cool story bro.

 

[semaphore]

I actually hoped Windows Phony would do this as well (you know, like Windows Mobile did eons ago, before Android even existed). Instead, Microsoft seems more interested in making personal computers into giant, super-expensive, non-portable phones, instead of making phones that work like a portable computer. I guess that's one way to "converge" things.

Phone = Phone,

Portable Computer = Portable Computer.

If need one get one. Exactly what the apple fanbois do.

 

[TJ99]

Phone = Phone,

Portable Computer = Portable Computer.

If need one get one. Exactly what the apple fanbois do.

Exactly, this "consistent experience" bull**** started with Apple. Now MS has first dumbed down their smartphone OS, and now they're doing the same with PC's, to try and make them the same.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Why would you want to play angry birds? yeah because Apple does not have at all such a draconian app store policies lol. cool story bro.

Its simple really.

Because we save money in other eco systems(Do not have to buy apps twice) we can actually buy something for entertainment as well

 

[Suspect99]

True, I was not debating the difficulty of it, just the point that even iOS users change phones to mimic others. (strengthening the argument)

Haha ya I started writing something scathing, but then I read your post again and changed it.
The tone of it might still have come out wrong though

 

[semaphore]

Exactly, this "consistent experience" bull**** started with Apple. Now MS has first dumbed down their smartphone OS, and now they're doing the same with PC's, to try and make them the same.

Its been around long before apple ****. WHY do you want a personal computer in your ****ing phone? There will always be tradeoffs in usability when trying to scale down to a reasonable form factor.

 

[semaphore]

Its simple really.

Because we save money in other eco systems(Do not have to buy apps twice) we can actually buy something for entertainment as well

Go read what apple takes from the developers of those applications, i was writing an iOS app and well yeah lol i quickly canned that project when they wanted 30% of the profit.

At the end of the day i prefer windows platforms to unix/linux ones. More from a technical and software development point of view.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Go read what apple takes from the developers of those applications, i was writing an iOS app and well yeah lol i quickly canned that project when they wanted 30% of the profit.

At the end of the day i prefer windows platforms to unix/linux ones. More from a technical and software development point of view.

Erm Microsoft also does this so I do not get your point? Oh and its not 30% of the profit, its 30% of the app's price.

Microsoft is even more greedy than the rest, as the lowest price for paid apps are forced $1.49 for Windows 8 apps.

 

[TJ99]

Its been around long before apple ****. WHY do you want a personal computer in your ****ing phone? There will always be tradeoffs in usability when trying to scale down to a reasonable form factor.

Oh, sorry, didn't see you were trying to be an ******* there, I thought you were trying to actually make some kind of point. Should have suspected as much when you quoted me instead of the guy whose original post I was addressing. Smartphones have always been about getting as much functionality and power into as small a device as possible, that's WHY. If you could stop acting like a retard with split personality disorder (apologies if you actually are mentally challenged and/or have a disorder), you'd see that we're not talking about having exactly the same stuff/interface on a phone as a computer, but rather the same power and utility that you get on a computer. Things like those mentioned in post #18.

And no, there aren't any of your "trade-offs" in Android, just as there weren't in Symbian or the old Windows Mobile. You could/can do pretty much what the hardware would/will allow you. They didn't "streamline" the crap out of everything and turn your expensive phone into a Fischer-Price toy like Apple (and now MS) does.