Reading and writing (or spelling good for that matter) doesn't mean I had the best education.
Anyway, one can always better his "education" with the new better, but not great, one I suppose.
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Reading and writing (or spelling good for that matter) doesn't mean I had the best education.
Anyway, one can always better his "education" with the new better, but not great, one I suppose.
Mila
Honorary Master
And all white people where all rich. And got handed free houses and could go to school and university for free...
you do make apartheid sound like heaven... Keep on going you are going to convince even the black people to bring it back...
Mila
Honorary Master
Oke fine so if you did not better yourself in the new goverment you are lazy. And if you did not want to better yourself and it has nothing to do with apartheid.
Is there something wrong with someone asking for substantiating of a statement?
Or are you happy a black person said SOMETHING was good about apartheid that it makes you have a warm and fuzzy feeling?
Yes ecstatic
I'm more happy that a politician has pointed out that maybe the governments service delivery was sub par. Sheesh talk about paranoid 
Pitbull
Verboten
100% correct and I agree with you.
I think we all know the Mandela story by now
The fact that you have people under the age of 40 playing the "Appartheid" tune when it comes to education needs to cath a wake up. If you are 30 odd years, black and still uneducated...... YOU FAIL !!!!!! It's not appartheid's fault it's yours. If you where to dumb to go to school but would rather run in the streets and steel cos it made you feel good. It's your own fault. I agree, Appartheid was the worst thing ever to happen in the world next only to the Holocast. Buts seriously, 15 years on into a democrazy, Schooling which was changed back then by the old "TDO" from the early 80's already. Stop with the bloody excuses already and fix the fk'ng problems.
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smokey
Honorary Master
Mila, this is the densest thing you have ever said (that I have come across). Where am I saying apartheid is good? Or any of that other info. Mandela was a higher up. He got things others couldn't. Like Harry and William went to Eton and Rothersham Public School. They went to Cambridge, not the University of Greater Piddlington. Seriously, you must have tried that tea I recommended... I told you not to overdo it!
HypoThesis
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100% correct and I agree with you.
I think we all know the Mandela story by now
Buts eriously, 15 years on into a democrazy, Schooling which was changed back then by the old "TDO" from the early 80's already. Stop with the bloody excuses already and fix the fk'ng problems.
Ok. So we agree on one point then.
The "Freedom Generation" has no excuses, THAT I agree with. I also believe we generally come from a country of people who expect government to spoon feed them merely coz they voted for them.
smokey
Honorary Master
Ok. So we agree on one point then.
The "Freedom Generation" has no excuses, THAT I agree with. I also believe we generally come from a country of people who expect government to spoon feed them merely coz they voted for them.
Any system that favours according to stereotypes (black, white, asian, shiite, sunni, christian, atheist) is just turning its people into sheep. Agree 100%
Its strange on this forum how some people can actually defend such an idiotic post. So Blacks didnt suffer under apartheid because of its policies but rather that they were lazy. Rubbish!That is just the thing Mila, lots of people in SA today have no idea what apartheid was and what it all entailed. They use it as an excuse for every little thing even education.
Mandela studied in AFRIKAANS. The biggest thing about the previously disadvantaged was that they refused to study in Afrikaans. That caused their own downfall. Ever heard of the phrase "Cut off your nose to spite your face" ? Cos that fits PERFECTLY !
Was it right to force people to get an education in Afrikaans ? NO!
Was the opportunity there for them to get an education even if it was in Afrikaans? YES!
They got the same kind of education as the rest of SA. We were also fed the propaganda bull****. They just had the harshest places to learn in. They never had Massive schools and mint classrooms. But they had schools and they had teachers.
The legacy of Apartheid will never die as it's a simple excuse for their own laziness. Mandela could do it, if he could anyone could have. Was the road hard? YES. Did he push through and overcame the challenges. YES. That is the reason Mandela is such a brilliant person. He didn’t ask for handouts. I made the best of what he had and fought for what he believed in.
Unlike some constant whiners on here
Sensorei
Executive Member
In 1991 under the old Bantu education regime 11% of blacks writing matric achieved a university exemption. In 2006 after 12 years under the new and improved ANC education system only 11.6% of Black Africans who did matric got a university exemption, compared to half of white learners.
A big improvement (0.6%) on apartheid education hey lol. Nobody keeps a black man down like another black man. Its shocking! It is just plain sickening that education has not improved and that the ANC shows no accountability and just points fingers.
Is there something wrong with someone asking for substantiating of a statement?
Or are you happy a black person said SOMETHING was good about apartheid that it makes you have a warm and fuzzy feeling?
I love how you bring colour into it once again. What is the problem on this forum with colour?
Pitbull
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Don't you think We the White kids born after 1976 where also done a great unjust ? We where told Black people are the dumbest race in the world, evolution is true that is where the black people came from. We where the superior race put on earth by God. Black people can't judge distance they can't social in groups, they live like animals as they never clean after themselves.
This we where all fed from a very young age at school. Appartheid had many victims, not just the black people of SA. Allot of racist people born before 1990 is the fault of Appartheid. You my friend seems to be one of these people. Pls, you have no idea as to what appartheid was and what it caused.
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Pitbull
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O NOES !
Pls don't provide stats, people like manesan will call you an idiot for saying black people had the means to an education back then
Ok. So we agree on one point then.
The "Freedom Generation" has no excuses, THAT I agree with. I also believe we generally come from a country of people who expect government to spoon feed them merely coz they voted for them.
I know a lot of people back home who had good grades in high school, but can't further their studies coz of poverty. So the government should assist them.
davemc
Executive Member
Amazing that 95% of the posts in this thread have nothing to do with the actual solution.
The posters remind me of parliament.
The posters remind me of parliament.
Don't you realise that every political motivated thread turns into anc vs da, black vs white? That's just the way it is on this forum.
Sensorei
Executive Member
Pitbull where the hell were you at school? I was born in '78 and was never taught racist nonsense at school. In fact my Std. 2 and 3 class teachers risked their own asses by saying how evil apartheid was. Not all whites grew up like that.
HypoThesis
Expert Member
But that isn't for lack of funding, I think it's more a communication problem on the side of Governenment. Billions are put aside for education each year and grants for good students with no money are available...it's actually written in law, when I was a student in 2001, any student who's family had an income of less than R30 000 a year qualified for full payment of the tuition fees via TEFSA