Total Grid collaps

[petum]

Is this the new Y2K thread?

Hopefully.

 

[2026]

We would be the first for a whole country to go down afaik.

I'm busy reading this:

2019 Venezuelan blackouts - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I think it would be comparable to what would happen here if it were to ever get to that point.

 

[Supervan II]

Beg to differ.

Really?

If dedicated enough, for the first few hours/days perhaps. It's thereafter that is the concern, once reality hits

Just think about it for a second:
No electricity at home;
No water to wash/shower/bath/wash dishes/cook;
Sewerage systems blocked;
No public transport;
No fuel to get to work - and, even if you do manage to get there, what are you going to do once the backup power runs out?
No cash to buy anything as the ATMs aren't working;
No food/medicine as stores cannot be replenished as the supply chain has ground to a halt;
Gangs roaming the neighborhood, looking for places to plunder;
No law and order as the police would not be able to cope (ref July 2021, KZN)
Etc, etc

 

[wingnut771]

I'm busy reading this:

2019 Venezuelan blackouts - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I think it would be comparable to what would happen here if it were to ever get to that point.

Why It's So Hard to Restart Venezuela's Power Grid

As it approaches a full week, Venezuela's national power outage shows just how hard it is to restart a grid from scratch.

www.wired.com

They only use about 6GW and have 1 hydro power station powering 80% of the country . Our case would be 10 times harder imho.

 

[wingnut771]

Beg to differ.

 

[The_MAC]

Don't you have friends and family? News will spread like wildfire via whatapps when everyone doesn't have power. You'd know within 15mins.

Don't stress, you will get the voice note starting like, "More almal.."

 

[Grieta Thanburg]

Don't stress, you will get the voice note starting like, "More almal.."

This gave me a chuckle. Oh how often my parents still believe those and forward it.

 

[The_MAC]

This gave me a chuckle. Oh how often my parents still believe those and forward it.

I'm the unofficial scam/prank/lie detector, trying to shield the oldies in the family from emotional or financial ruin..

 

[TheChamp]

Thanks Captain obvious.

I'm looking for a accurate time line expectation from a reliable source.

Time line expectation for the grid collapse?

Let me throw the bones fast fast.

 

[wingnut771]

Time line expectation for the grid collapse?

Let me throw the bones fast fast.

Yeah, there will be fokkal warning. Just like when you have a fault, one second it’s working, then the lights flicker and then they go off.

 

[TheChamp]

Time line expectation for the grid collapse?

Let me throw the bones fast fast.

I am back, it's going to happen at Midnight just before the elections in 2024.

 

[TheChamp]

How much power would we need to Jumpstart ours, Eskom had to send 347MW to Botswana, and who is going to give us?

 

[wingnut771]

How much power would we need to Jumpstart ours, Eskom had to send 347MW to Botswana, and who is going to give us?

This is the problem, we are on our own. Our minimum load is 20 000MW.

 

[TheChamp]

This is the problem, we are on our own. Our minimum load is 20 000MW.

What does the minimum load entail?

 

[wingnut771]

What does the minimum load entail?

Keeping the grid @ 50hz.

 

[TheChamp]

Keeping the grid @ 50hz.

Then someone must be on their toes in keeping Mr System operator's coffee coming, that man must always be wakker at all times.

It will of course be someone who is vetted, it would be very tragic if he got the coffee from the De Ruyter machine.

 

[leon.davibe]

Why It's So Hard to Restart Venezuela's Power Grid

As it approaches a full week, Venezuela's national power outage shows just how hard it is to restart a grid from scratch.

www.wired.com

They only use about 6GW and have 1 hydro power station powering 80% of the country . Our case would be 10 times harder imho.

I don't know as far as i have it the problem is having load come up as production comes up

Kinda hard to do with one major source

ie all or nothing ,unless you have a big battery to absorb and then the switch over is balancing the load coming on and push to battery

All these battery backup systems would actually help in a grid restart scenario imo

ie you don't have to worry if you are gonna have wnough load to absorb the unit you just bring online

If the transformers will be fine after getting that cold and moisture ingress is another thing

Yea living next to the coast is gonna e hectic in a total grid failure

 

[wingnut771]

I don't know as far as i have it the problem is having load come up as production comes up

Kinda hard to do with one major source

ie all or nothing ,unless you have a big battery to absorb and then the switch over is balancing the load coming on and push to battery

All these battery backup systems would actually help in a grid restart scenario imo

ie you don't have to worry if you are gonna have wnough load to absorb the unit you just bring online

If the transformers will be fine after getting that cold and moisture ingress is another thing

Yea living next to the coast is gonna e hectic in a total grid failure

 

[leon.davibe]

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Yea blond thought

How do you make a big hydro power plant , multiple units

 

[The_MAC]

Thanks Captain obvious.

I'm looking for a accurate time line expectation from a reliable source.

What if I told you that my reliable source said it's tomorrow at 12:32?