Toyota 86

there is a 86 with turbo available to test drive at Freeway Toyota,
 
Gonzo.B said:
^^LOL

I have driven this car, have u? The gearbox is basically a porsche boxster,the engine as well but is build by subaru,nothing wrong with subaru,great cars.

This car is well documented to have its problems,and not so popular handling,my problem with this car was the price tag when it launched. It was R370k when it launched so for a price tag of that caliber one would expect much more than a mediocre engine built by subaru,and more detail to its handling.

I have driven this car and worked on many many cars in my lifetime and changed complete suspensions of cars, i think i might know a thing or two to add value to his thread,so unless u have more knowledge why don't u try and add value to the thread rather.
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You have added value to this thread, in the form of comic relief. All that's left is for Brenden_H to come in and claim that his wife's Tiguan is faster, and offer up a "0-100 race".

@OP I've had mine for almost 3 years now, still enjoying every bit of it. Very reliable, great engine note, excellent feedback through the steering and just a hoot to drive. It's a brilliantly handling car in sport mode, and lets go of the back very easily with the traction control off. Don't expect it to win many drag races against the turbo hatches up here in Jhb, but it's pretty quick down at the coast. It's as close to a road-going gokart as you're going to get...
 
This car has kinda faded from the front pages compared to the S2000 for example.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
You have added value to this thread, in the form of comic relief. All that's left is for Brenden_H to come in and claim that his wife's Tiguan is faster, and offer up a "0-100 race".

@OP I've had mine for almost 3 years now, still enjoying every bit of it. Very reliable, great engine note, excellent feedback through the steering and just a hoot to drive. It's a brilliantly handling car in sport mode, and lets go of the back very easily with the traction control off. Don't expect it to win any drag races against the turbo hatches up here in Jhb, but it's pretty quick down at the coast. It's as close to a road-going gokart as you're going to get...
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FTFY
 
When i'm big I will buy one of these. Always wanted a MX-5 but prefer a roof and some back seats, this is the closest i'll get. But not now, when i'm a big boy.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
Yes my best mate owns the Subaru BRZ, the gearbox is not from a Porsche Boxster or even developed in any way by Porsche:



You clearly know nothing about this car and the fact it has a boxer ENGINE, not gearbox(whatever the f a boxer gearbox is).... Oh and a Porsche Boxster doesn't have a boxer engine either.

This car was specifically designed to have low grip and lowish power so you can slide it around easily, so it's fun... No it won't go around a track very fast but it'll put a massive smile on your face. It's the entire point of the car. You clearly don't know this or don't understand it or don't like it and that's fine. Just don't come around saying it's a crap car.

And if you don't mind me saying I trust the engineers at Subaru and Toyota a lot more than some random dude on the web claiming he's "worked on many many cars in my lifetime and changed complete suspensions of cars" who gets confused about a boxer engine.
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The Boxster does have a Boxer engine. A 6 cylinder 2.7L (Boxster) and 3.4L(Boxster S) flat six engine.
It'll have a 4 cylinder Boxer with the next iteration (981.2).

You're right though. This guy (suspension dude) doesn't know much about the BRZ/GT86/FRS.. Those cars are excellent to drive, but they don't have a lot of torque(205 N.M), which is to be expected of a small capacity high-revving naturally aspirated engine (i.e. VTEC).

You don't buy a GT86 for straight line racing.
 
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Interesting someone actually remembered Scion FR-S. The US okes don't get the (GT) 86 so the Scion is their option from the Toyota stable.
 
Depends on your budget and other car options.

Those that know cars will laugh at you, those that dont know cars will praise you, its one of those cars...
 
Rusty0 said:
Depends on your budget and other car options.

Those that know cars will laugh at you, those that dont know cars will praise you, its one of those cars...
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You know how, sometimes, people spew moronic **** online and veil it as their opinion?

Then again your motoring-related posts here often highlight a blind-fanboy mentality for boosted, AWD hot hatches, so this type of thing is expected from you.
 
TehStranger said:
You know how, sometimes, people spew moronic **** online and veil it as their opinion?

Then again your motoring-related posts here often highlight a blind-fanboy mentality for boosted, AWD hot hatches, so this type of thing is expected from you.
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It is my opinion.

I was at a dyno day recently, BMW, Subarus, Opel, VW, Audi.
A Toyota 86 rolled up to the dyno, we all laughed...
 
Rusty0 said:
It is my opinion.

I was at a dyno day recently, BMW, Subarus, Opel, VW, Audi.
A Toyota 86 rolled up to the dyno, we all laughed...
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I assume you also laugh at the Polo GTIs and Fiesta STs? And the previous generation Civic Type R? And that you'll laugh at the new MX-5 when it gets here.

All punch in the same league down at the coast, and only the PGTI and FiST do much better at altitude due to the turbos.

You're probably the type who laughs at an e9x M3 up in JHB because it's slower than a mildly modified Golf 7R...
 
TehStranger said:
I assume you also laugh at the Polo GTIs and Fiesta STs? And the previous generation Civic Type R? And that you'll laugh at the new MX-5 when it gets here.

All punch in the same league down at the coast, and only the PGTI and FiST do much better at altitude due to the turbos.

You're probably the type who laughs at an e9x M3 up in JHB because it's slower than a mildly modified Golf 7R...
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Nope, those little hatches do make some respectable power, especially the Fiesta.

MX5? WTF LOL!!

Much respect for the E92. Its a beast.

So wrong wrong on all 3 there Stranger...
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
A flat is different to a boxer AFAIK:

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ce-between-a-boxer-and-flat-engine-85305.html

The 86 definitely uses a boxer, I don't know if the Boxster uses a flat or a boxer.
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Yes, there may be a few differences in terms of crank pins and such, but the horizontally opposed motion of the engine results in it being called a boxer. AFAIK

"A boxer engine should not be confused with the opposed-piston engine, in which each cylinder has two pistons but no cylinder head.

True boxers have each crankpin controlling only one piston/cylinder while the 180° engines, which superficially appear very similar, share crankpins. The 180° engine, which may be thought of as a type of V engine, is quite uncommon as it has all of the disadvantages of a flat engine, and few of the advantages."

Here is the BRZ's crank
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Here is a Boxster's crank
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I shouldn't have used the words "Flat six".
 
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Dark-Cloud said:
Yes, there may be a few differences in terms of crank pins and such, but the horizontally opposed motion of the engine results in it being called a boxer. AFAIK

"A boxer engine should not be confused with the opposed-piston engine, in which each cylinder has two pistons but no cylinder head.

True boxers have each crankpin controlling only one piston/cylinder while the 180° engines, which superficially appear very similar, share crankpins. The 180° engine, which may be thought of as a type of V engine, is quite uncommon as it has all of the disadvantages of a flat engine, and few of the advantages."

Here is the BRZ's crank
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Here is a Boxster's crank
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I shouldn't have used the words "Flat six".
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Oh that's interesting, I thought boxers shared crank pins and flats had separate pins... Seems it's the other way around.
 
Rusty0 said:
It is my opinion.

I was at a dyno day recently, BMW, Subarus, Opel, VW, Audi.
A Toyota 86 rolled up to the dyno, we all laughed...
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Yeah because we all know the sole definition of a great car is how much it puts out on the dyno....
 
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