Tutorial to disable Windows 10 Spying, or Telemetry as it is called, verified.

biometrics said:
Or just use Windows 7.
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From the link:
Before we start, I definitely should mention one fact. Beware Windows 7/Windows 8 users, your operating system might be spying on you as well! See the following article: Telemetry and Data Collection are coming to Windows 7 and Windows 8 too
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genetic said:
:erm:

Or just take off your tinfoil hat?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-i...=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
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Thanks genetic.

I am not wearing the hat. I am fully aware how the system works and I'm a Microsoft supporter. I am just posting the link for reference purposes and to those whom wish to turn off data collection and telemetry. The fact that it is active and can't be turned off with a simple on/off switch is a bit off putting to me to be honest. Microsoft should make it opt in, in my opinion. Be a bit more transparent about what they do and I believe they will garner more support. This cat and mouse game is not bringing them support and is doing their reputation harm.

Again, I do support their efforts and I think Windows 10 is definitely a step in the right direction. It's the best Windows operating system to date.

Thanks for the article. I tried to search for something similar, but my keywords lacked.
 
|tera| said:
Microsoft should make it opt in, in my opinion. Be a bit more transparent about what they do and I believe they will garner more support.
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The problem is that sending telemetry and crash data in the past has been opt-in, and the majority of computer users do not submit their crash logs for analysis. How else is Microsoft supposed to recover useful information in a timely fashion if the user never enables it?
 
CataclysmZA said:
The problem is that sending telemetry and crash data in the past has been opt-in, and the majority of computer users do not submit their crash logs for analysis. How else is Microsoft supposed to recover useful information in a timely fashion if the user never enables it?
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Never force people to do anything against their will. That's my motto in life. Should we start forcing Microsoft to bend according to our needs and desires? Take it like a Man M$? No. No is always no. It's a poor excuse.
 
SammyD said:
Isn't that what they did when they were developing Windows 10?
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You are confusing creating a product for consumers according to their needs and requirements with forcing someone or a corporation to do something against their will. There is a huge difference.
 
genetic said:
:erm:

Or just take off your tinfoil hat?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-i...=nl.e539&s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61
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The article is a complete rubbish from the MS press release office. Some points are valid, but not this one:
The most important one is the Software Licensing Service, which checks the state of Windows activation periodically. By dropping those connections, Mr. Crust is not allowing those activation and validation checks to complete. Windows gets very cranky when that happens, which could explain why there were more than 1,700 connection attempts to a handful of addresses in a single range of IP addresses managed by Microsoft.
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Enterprise edition was in testing. This edition will activate on the corporate KML server. Once activated, it only needs to refresh activation every few months.
 
Why does anon not just DDOS the bloody servers collecting the data. they know exactly where they are on the net. and what ports are open. just flood them.
 
Wrt to windows 10 periodically checking activation

What if you go online very seldomly, and always disable the adapter?

Can win 10 secretly enable the adapter and download updates?

I must have an ancient version, as I did a clean install, and NEVER updated to threshold version

And disabled as much as I could....

Also, what if you load a firewall like zonealarm on your PC? Won't it disable sending data to m$
 
Magnum said:
Why does anon not just DDOS the bloody servers collecting the data. they know exactly where they are on the net. and what ports are open. just flood them.
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That's a very stupid idea, it will probably create more ball aches than it will solve. And what about security updates that will be delayed or not delivered?? In the end it would also result in more connects to the servers if anti ddos checks are added (if not already there).

ODTech said:
The zdnet guy just picked apart Mr. Crust "network analysis". He assumed if Mr.Crusts conclusions is wrong then he must be right but he didn't prove or disprove anything himself. All in all a pretty pointless article besides debunking the forbes article.
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Come on man, which article is more logical

sajunky said:
The article is a complete rubbish from the MS press release office. Some points are valid, but not this one:

Enterprise edition was in testing. This edition will activate on the corporate KML server. Once activated, it only needs to refresh activation every few months.
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Only once windows is activated will it stop trying to phone home to activate. For enterprise using kms activation this will general be to a several on the local network, for pirates using enterprise edition and an illegal unlicenced server on the web, well who is the idiot forcing connection to an unknown third party and they have no right to complain. The normal kms process is initial activation, and a check in every 21 days, but will remain active for 180 days without being able to check in.

eg2505 said:
Wrt to windows 10 periodically checking activation

What if you go online very seldomly, and always disable the adapter?

Can win 10 secretly enable the adapter and download updates?

I must have an ancient version, as I did a clean install, and NEVER updated to threshold version

And disabled as much as I could....

Also, what if you load a firewall like zonealarm on your PC? Won't it disable sending data to m$
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No, windows will not enable the adapter on your behalf. (Maybe only during troubleshooting a network connection).
I'm assuming you haven't updated to a final version due to licencing issues??


ALWAYS hilarious how people quickly bash MS but they will continue to use their products and just rip out half the pieces that keep things running smoothly.


http://www.zdnet.com/article/is-windows-10-telemetry-a-threat-to-your-personal-privacy/
 
reactor_sa said:
Only once windows is activated will it stop trying to phone home to activate. For enterprise using kms activation this will general be to a several on the local network, [...]
The normal kms process is initial activation, and a check in every 21 days, but will remain active for 180 days without being able to check in.
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This is correct, it needs to refresh activation only couple days after activation. Before Windows 10 if was true. Why then Windows 10 needs to phone home activation servers - outside LAN address space and so many times in few hours?
 
reactor_sa said:
No, windows will not enable the adapter on your behalf. (Maybe only during troubleshooting a network connection).
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Correct, I didn't notice any attempts of enabling disabled device so far. I am not absolutely sure what will happen if Windows will detect updated driver. Driver updates are turned on by default and there is a mechanism updating driver by Windows Update (which cannot be turned off in Home edition). What will happen when new driver replaces the old one, I don't know.
 
reactor_sa said:
ALWAYS hilarious how people quickly bash MS but they will continue to use their products and just rip out half the pieces that keep things running smoothly.


http://www.zdnet.com/article/is-windows-10-telemetry-a-threat-to-your-personal-privacy/
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There are many sins which turn users back to the previous versions, like automatic updates horrror wasting 10GB or more on the single 2.3GB major update if you stop for the moment paying attention to your data usage. There are intentionally obsfuscated options like a "metered connection" marketting bluff which let you think you are in control of your bill (which is not true), convenient assumption that LAN adapter interface Internet connection is completely unlimited - not giving an option to change to a metering type. The only connection with "metered connection" attribute turned 'on' is a RAS adapter, so Microsoft made it not functioning properly, deliberately, I think. Number of sins are growing upsetting more and more people, but there are also usability problems - completely unfinished Settings applet with conficting naming to the Control Panel items. This dual interface is confusing every user I know.

The articles like above are typically submitted by Microsoft's propaganda. I never trusted ZDNET Website which requires 10MB to load and carries straight away Microsoft propaganda material without any independent verification.
As far as I can tell, that "off switch" already exists, and when it's flipped to the correct position, I believe there's virtually no chance that Windows 10 telemetry information constitutes even a remote privacy issue.
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'Off' switch is leaking, call a plummer, as is malfunctioning.
As for the last belief, the author must be very well informed, perhaps received full specification, formats, encryption keys for his PC, and did analyze most of packets for compliance. As far it is not verified, it represent a serious privacy threat.
 
Slightly off topic.

I have 99+ notifications on my lock screen and I can't seem to get rid of it, even after I viewed everything related to it.
All my notifications in settings are switched off but for some reason... sigh.

Anyone know of a quick fix?
 
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