Ubuntu in 2009

I'm sorry, duplicating Windows, just because people are familiar with windows is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yes, Ubuntu can become more user friendly but certainly does not have to be "windows user friendly'..I say if people could have learned how to use windows then they can learn how to use Ubuntu, if thats to much hassle then they must rather fork out for windows.
 
Slootvreter said:
And that is why they will continue to do so.
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Not for too long though. There is a great deal of people that don't have computers capable of running W7... as well as people that aren't exactly impressed by Vista... this is two factors that might just lead to some more M$-> LiNuX migrations.
 
froot said:
Not for too long though. There is a great deal of people that don't have computers capable of running W7... as well as people that aren't exactly impressed by Vista... this is two factors that might just lead to some more M$-> LiNuX migrations.
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XP still works fine for them.
 
chiskop said:
Yeah, you're slowly starting to come round to the future. :rolleyes: :)
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Not the present then?;)

froot said:
Not for too long though. There is a great deal of people that don't have computers capable of running W7... as well as people that aren't exactly impressed by Vista... this is two factors that might just lead to some more M$-> LiNuX migrations.
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People forget that Windows and OSX, the competitors to LINUX, are not standing still waiting to be replaced. LINUX has also become bloated too, the LIVE versions won't work on my laptop for instance.
 
Sackboy said:
People forget that Windows and OSX, the competitors to LINUX, are not standing still waiting to be replaced. LINUX has also become bloated too, the LIVE versions won't work on my laptop for instance.
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What laptop do you have? I've never encountered a live cd that does not work.
 
Sackboy said:
It runs with an AMD processor. I can load a distro, but that in itself sometimes causes issues with things like CPU driver problems.
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You removed the Athlon64 from your post? :confused:
I have a friend with both a 32-bit and 64-bit AMD processor... he has never had any issues with his. Never heard of it giving issues either.
 
Sackboy said:
It runs with an AMD processor. I can load a distro, but that in itself sometimes causes issues with things like CPU driver problems.
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Well I do find that with certain hardware configurations you can have ACPI problems, but that can't be blamed on Linux.
 
Sackboy said:
Not the present then?;)


People forget that Windows and OSX, the competitors to LINUX, are not standing still waiting to be replaced. LINUX has also become bloated too, the LIVE versions won't work on my laptop for instance.
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A live-cd is very handy in certain situations, e.g. tech. demonstrations, resizing partitions, quick tests for hardware incompatibilities etc. Assessing performance levels is not one of those situations.
Live-cds, like Knoppix for example, can be booted with options that disable ACPI, force IRQ-polling etc. These are routinely used to overcome issues with troublesome motherboard chipsets.
The options are documented and they are mentioned in the boot-messages. Did you try any of these?

Which distro of Linux compelled you to come to the informed conclusion that it is bloated? Did you test all of them?
 
fskmh said:
A live-cd is very handy in certain situations, e.g. tech. demonstrations, resizing partitions, quick tests for hardware incompatibilities etc. Assessing performance levels is not one of those situations.
Live-cds, like Knoppix for example, can be booted with options that disable ACPI, force IRQ-polling etc. These are routinely used to overcome issues with troublesome motherboard chipsets.
The options are documented and they are mentioned in the boot-messages. Did you try any of these?

Which distro of Linux compelled you to come to the informed conclusion that it is bloated? Did you test all of them?
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Exactly. However ACPI was never supposed to be a problem as it is supposed to be cross-platform. I suppose when Microsoft is involved in the design of something it is never truly cross-platform.

EDIT: Although I remember reading somewhere that someone in the Linux community was working on some sort of universal Linux BIOS to solve the ACPI problem. That would be nice.
 
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fskmh said:
A live-cd is very handy in certain situations, e.g. tech. demonstrations, resizing partitions, quick tests for hardware incompatibilities etc. Assessing performance levels is not one of those situations.
Live-cds, like Knoppix for example, can be booted with options that disable ACPI, force IRQ-polling etc. These are routinely used to overcome issues with troublesome motherboard chipsets.
The options are documented and they are mentioned in the boot-messages. Did you try any of these?

Which distro of Linux compelled you to come to the informed conclusion that it is bloated? Did you test all of them?
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I realise the usefulness, especially for trying a new flavour instead of going through all the install hassle. I've tried numerous times and numerous editions. I also researched the problem, which is shared with other owners of the same PC, so I'm not alone. I'm blaming a memory shortage as well. If you have a recent, fast PC then it may be hard to imagine a Live Distro not working.
 
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