Uncapped ADSL for R899

[bwana]

I didnt think about the 512k line, well hopefully I will get access to the 1024Mbps by the time I arrive. FTP is 100% download speed from my site for my buddy who has been testing it on his MWEB account for me. Methinks there is a difference between MWEB and say the other low cost ISPs.

If he's a capped user then its the same as any of the low cost ISPs - they all run off the same network AFAIK. I moved away from Mweb adsl as soon as I heard they werent intending to offer any higher capped packages. The speeds were identical.

ETA for the 1mbs line who knows - and you're still not going to get more than a 512 up if telkom retains its current Up/Down ratio. (265 on the 512 line)

Rule of thumb - dont rely on telkom for anything other than high prices and you wont be disappointed.

 

[Swazi]

Have not read through this whole thread but my question is will ftp be @ 56KBs or 2KBs like UUNET was or most probably still is.

Bit useless getting http and pop3 at 56KBs and ftp at zero, especially for a business account.

 

[TheRoDent]

If you make it R799, and convince IS to keep their fracking mirror server up to date, I'll go for it any day.

However, you will have to explicitly state what kind of traffic you're shaping, and what kind you're not. And by that, I mean port numbers, or packet signatures or whatever the hell else your Packeteer is going to shape. You will also have to be careful regards your Acceptable Use Policy, because if someone finds a loophole, and "abuses" the facility, you have only yourself to blame.

If I need to do a CVS/Subversion checkout, of six of the opensource projects I'm working on, and you fackers consider it "P2P" I will freak out. However, I can honestly say that a number of "non-abusive" high powered-well-paid people I know would go for something like this. "IS uncapped" and "Datapro Uncapped" are just a tad out of reach, pricewise. Something like this would have a lot of appeal with serious developers.

--- BUT --- Full disclosure, or shut down the product.

 

[asmith]

matt156... some of my clients may go for this R899 option, but I don't want it to include a Cisco router and VPN stuff that IS does currently. It would have to provide reliable stable bandwidth however. Month to month contract is great, we cant afford to do 12 or 24 month agreements in the current fluid broadband climate.

I would also like to see an option of purchasing a local bandwidth only account from IS. We currently split international and local traffic on separate PPPOE logins, local via UUNET and international via Webafrica. We have to do this because peering between SAIX and IS is bad and we often get packet loss which causes problems for some of the applications we run. International on UUNET uncapped is poor generally, but local is darn good. But I hope if anyone offers local only we may get cheaper accounts since we wont use the international bandwidth.

 

[MrBEEP]

Hey

That price is excessively expensive for a limited account. Personally I would never go for it. I don't need Unlimited if I can't download what I want, when I want, where I want.

 

[lewstherin]

Matt - you should make a big NB next to what theRodent said!
I agree fully with him.

"P2P" can mean many, many different things.
If you disclose fully what you shape, then you shouldn't have issues with customers.

You cant cater for everyone, but basically the big downfall of most uncapped offers is that they get raped into the ground by downloaders. By using intelligent shaping, you can effectively exclude such problems.

Personally I think shaping is too difficult an endevour to get right - p2p software is constantly changing and thus shaping has got to evolve the same way.
Unshaped capping is a better idea - at least then your product has a ceiling of abuse defined, and of course then your customer's internet experience is completely untainted by shaping.

 

[Lipe123]

...Unshaped capping is a better idea - at least then your product has a ceiling of abuse defined, and of course then your customer's internet experience is completely untainted by shaping.

Very much true!! Tho the current 4gb offerings are stupid! I mean really.. look at it like this: with isdn.which is also abt R900 -R1000 with phone expenses. I used to download 500Mb every callmore session. thats a LOT in a month. Why would I pay loads of money for a 4gb unshaped account then?

there should be 30Gb unshaped, or just a bit faster than unshaped.. maybe throttled.. like max 20kb/s... accounts for like R600 or so.

Well thats me..