-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: What is your preferred Chinese car brand?
Uncapped ADSL prices: Telkom versus MWEB
- Thread starter rpm
- Start date
Sodan
Expert Member
It was my understanding that the same (or very similar) throttling policy is applied to the Telkom Premium accounts. So the Telkom accounts should read:
Telkom do Uncapped Advanced (throttled)
Telkom do Uncapped Premium (throttled)
and should be compared to the equivalent speed MWEB (throttled) accounts.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Telkom do Uncapped Advanced (throttled)
Telkom do Uncapped Premium (throttled)
and should be compared to the equivalent speed MWEB (throttled) accounts.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
cozinsky
Expert Member
Have you been reading the threads? Obviously you are wrong. The daytime limits on the Telkom accounts fall away beginning February. Telkom accounts are not throttled. That is exactly why people are upset about the Mweb offerings.
sparticus
Expert Member
Would it be fair to say that all Telkoms ADSL lines are now throttled ? Did they not make away with caps , last month ?
JacoMuller
New Member
- Joined
- Oct 28, 2010
- Messages
- 9
- Reaction score
- 0
My understanding is that the daytime limits will fall away but not the throttling. As per paragraph 3.1 of Telkom's Acceptable use policy:
"We monitor our overall network usage and if our data pool capacity is stretched we dynamically shape and throttle certain customer's uncapped accounts to relieve congestion. "
TrueSeeker
Honorary Master
- Joined
- May 20, 2010
- Messages
- 13,293
- Reaction score
- 18,346
I really don't get how everybody is comparing Telkom's old peak-time throttle (which was quite intense) with a total usage throttle. I'd really be surprised if Telkom has zero throttling. Telkom would not completely unshape/unthrottle peak time for their uncapped accounts... For that you need business ADSL or a capped account.
Yeah, profit is so overrated!
In all seriousness this is the only move Mweb could take to compete against Telkoms offerings. Openweb have been doing this for years and no complaints against them?
Bandwidth capacity prices are still the same, nothing has changed in the local market to lower costs - Telkom just heavily throttles their accounts so can charge these low prices.
I actually prefer this increased transparency, you now know exactly what you're signing up for.
This is one of the best insights so far on this thread.
Well said !
KOPITE
Executive Member
This was a bad move from Mweb. instead of leaving the premium service and drop their prices to be in line with other isp's, they try to be copycats like afrihost and openweb. why would you wana sell an inferior product, but still want to rake in the moolah.This Naspers/DSTV/Mweb is raping us in every way. they will lose alot of customers to Telkom sooner or later. if there is any wrong doing on behalf of TI and Telkom, then it should be reported to Icasa.
Looks like the competition will be between Plugg and Telkom now with Mweb fading like Afrihost and Webafrica.
Looks like the competition will be between Plugg and Telkom now with Mweb fading like Afrihost and Webafrica.
The proof is in the pudding. The comparison between these two products will be in testing the speeds and the amounts that can be downloaded. Currently MWEB's products are premium and you pretty much get full speed on everything most of the time.
I would love to get a trial account from both of them for this and see what it's like.
I would love to get a trial account from both of them for this and see what it's like.
KOPITE
Executive Member
I do think Telkom have enough capacity. with all these 20mb/s and 40mb/s trials running, they surely can handle these uncapped accounts.
KOPITE
Executive Member
I do think Telkom have enough capacity. with all these 20mb/s and 40mb/s trials running, they surely can handle these uncapped accounts.
You are trying to divert the attention away from Mweb and towards Telkom. That is very misleading and suspicious to say the least. The truth is that mweb have failed us by failing to build their own network and by failing to offer their own IPconnect product to compete against Telkom's IPconnect. I dont care for their excuses. If there is SO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE, all the companies in the sector must have no excuse.
Blame the competition for doing a poor job at competing. Dont blame the corporation with the most feasible product.
Gone are the days when other ISP's could not legally compete against Telkom. Now any of them can build their own networks.
Last edited:
KOPITE
Executive Member
To my understanding Mweb built their own network. instead of fighting the opposition, Mweb surrender the white flag and their response was a total anti climax
Bern
Expert Member
Wow, so Telkom suddenly join the party and this makes MWEB the bad guys? Be fair, look at what they have done for the market and look at what Telkom has done. I wish MWEB could just drop their prices, but realistically I can see they might struggle to do that and keep service levels the way they are (I burn a huge amount of streaming data through them every month on my 2Mbps line and easily get 480p from youtube etc).
Maybe it is worth getting some feedback from some people using these new accounts and rules to see how they are implemented from both Telkom and MWEB before making wild statements about both. My guess is Telkom are gearing up to take the fight to MWEB's parent company and their strength - content delivery. So this is a pawn in a much bigger game.
Maybe it is worth getting some feedback from some people using these new accounts and rules to see how they are implemented from both Telkom and MWEB before making wild statements about both. My guess is Telkom are gearing up to take the fight to MWEB's parent company and their strength - content delivery. So this is a pawn in a much bigger game.
Wait, so a product that will run at pretty much full speed most of the time for anyone who isn't a heavy downloader is "inferior"? Or did everyone stop reading when they got to the word "throttled" and miss that it will only be applied to the heaviest users?
To mangle a car analogy: Ferrari speed, beetle price, dump truck capacity - Pick any two...
If you're a heavy downloader, these products are not aimed at you. What would be an interesting experiment would be to have two people downoading torrents 24/7 on both the Mweb and Telkom offerings and see which gets hit by shaping or throttling first...
To mangle a car analogy: Ferrari speed, beetle price, dump truck capacity - Pick any two...
If you're a heavy downloader, these products are not aimed at you. What would be an interesting experiment would be to have two people downoading torrents 24/7 on both the Mweb and Telkom offerings and see which gets hit by shaping or throttling first...
Because this isn't about the price. This is about Telkom taking an initiative with dropping prices and instead of MWEB following they create a new package, throttled accounts, which is a step in the wrong direction.
And don't get too excited about your OpenWeb account, I was with them for a while, they have their issues and times when you simply can't connect to anything and your speeds are horribly slow.
Telkom's network has always been a reasonably good one with fairly decent speed but the problem was always with the caps and the price. Now that that is resolved I suspect a number of people will move to Telkom.
The problem is MWEB refuses to define what they consider as heavy use. I use about 150GB in a month. Compared to some I am a heavy user, compared to others I am hardly making a dent.