Uncapped ADSL questions

[rpm]

We discussed the local SME market and high end ADSL offerings recently, and some guys were wondering what type of service will be able to compete effectively against Internet Solutions’ uncapped ADSL offerings. This is more or less what IS is currently offering: http://www.openweb.co.za/express_adsl.php

If you have a 4 Mbps ADSL service with an uncapped 1 Mbps IS ADSL account, priced at around R 2600 per month, what type of WiMax offering will convince you to rather go for the new service?

How important is speed (will it help if someone offers a 2 Mbps uncapped service or 4 Mbps uncapped service for around the same price?)?

How important is ‘totally uncapped’? Will 50 GB per month or 100 GB per month be good enough?

 

[Nerfherder]

For me the issues are around latency... I would say my needs are between 50-100 gig.
I would take a R500 50 gig account before I took a R1000 true uncapped account
Speed is great but i'm interested in something constant.

 

[rpm]

For me the issues are around latency... I would say my needs are between 50-100 gig.
I would take a R500 50 gig account before I took a R1000 true uncapped account
Speed is great but i'm interested in something constant.

Thanks for the feedback. This was actually one of the major points which was discussed: Can WiMax actually compete against ADSL?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

How important is speed (will it help if someone offers a 2 Mbps uncapped service or 4 Mbps uncapped service for around the same price?)?

How important is ‘totally uncapped’? Will 50 GB per month or 100 GB per month be good enough?

Speed is fairly important for me, maybe not so for others, but not necessarily the deciding factor. I'd most definitely be interested in a 4Mbps service at the same price, or 1Mbps at a quarter-ish.

WRT uncapped - not all that important, however the method of capping is. 50GB would be a good start but preferably not hardcapped - rather a reduced speed cap (that actually works).

 

[Amida]

We are currently paying around R3500 for an 50GB 4MB ADSL connection that's routed via Fiber. We usually get around 2MB max on international connections.

I know Wimax is a stable wireless connection but it's also a lot to do with how the network is built. Look at what happened to Neotel, you can't just go cancelling your ADSL line and then expect all traffic to be routed via Wimax.

The best way would probably be to keep the ADSL lines and get a small wimax connection and slowly route your traffic across.

Another thing I think is important is to get proper Static IPs. Since the new Wimax services will not run via Telkom's network can we please get static IPs that not assigned via a L2TP tunnel?

 

[Pilgrim]

What saddens me is the fact that we are actually discussing this in terms of "just how much can we charge the customer and how little can we give him in return?"

The international trend at the moment is web services moving to large cloud based providers. With pathetic little caps SA is being left further and further behind.

Like I said in a earlier thread, SA will always be playing catchup unless we do something drastic NOW.

What is the point of a 50gb cap when you can rent HD media online at ~8gb a pop? When applications require constant connections to the "cloud"? When Youtube now offers streaming in HD? When services like STEAM offer you a legal way to download full games (at 4 to 8gb per game)

Lets not even talk about XBox Live where you will soon be able to buy games online.

How long will a 50gb cap really last if you have a family that really use the internet? Mom and Dad making use of online services, teens hooked on Youtube, Netflix and Facebook?

By the time 50gb per month becomes an affordable (sub R200pm all inclusive) reality it will not be enough any more.

3D movies are starting to become a reality. Can you for one moment imagine how much bandwidth a 3D movie will need?

 

[howzit]

Another thing I think is important is to get proper Static IPs. Since the new Wimax services will not run via Telkom's network can we please get static IPs that not assigned via a L2TP tunnel?

In about 3 weeks all of Screamers WiMax connections will be provided on static IP's.

 

[Zmaster1911]

i would say about 3000 to 4000 for a real uncapped. no shaping, no throttling and no bull****. just clean uncapped

 

[kaaskop]

Our company (25 people) uses about 12-15 Gig a month. We currently pay about R1250 (512kbps). Speed is actually not a great factor for us but always on is extremely important since 95% of work is done on the net.

A uncapped solution will be nice as more and more of daily tasks is done on the net. We're in the process of looking at an uncapped option.

 

[Elev8r]

I don't understand how a company can advertise a service which it claims is uncapped, but actually has both a 10 day and a monthly threshold. How is that uncapped?

 

[Mercurious]

This is a bit off-topic but what about uncapped local-only?

 

[Gatecrasher]

I would love uncapped, unfettered, unshaped local only... for a song, of course.
4MB unrestricted and uncapped for +-R500pm.

Fact is I'm already paying a ridiculous amount for ADSL and line rental, so I expect the bandwidth charges over and above that to cost peanuts. That's how it works everywhere else except in this crazy, screw-the-consumer-everywhichway country we live in.