US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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Everything on mail in voting. And the new Dem conspiracy theory of stolen post boxes.
 
Did some digging.

The picture of the depot full of post boxes, it seems as if the post boxes have been there for years.

Locked post boxes is normal.

Trump's statement on the "defunding" was his usual gobblydook of stupidity, which leaves it open to any interpretation. He probably has no idea what he is talking about.
 
greg0205 said:
Wait 'till you hear about his boss who let 173 772 Americans die.
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It is said that it is wise to not get high on your own product.

Edit: The "product" in this case being the notion that Trump is indeed an autocrat with unlimited power and therefore unlimited responsibility.
 
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President Trump on Monday night said he will pardon someone who is “very, very important” on Tuesday.

The president, making the declaration to reporters aboard Air Force One, didn’t identify who the person was, but ruled out his former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and leaker Edward Snowden.
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https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/trump-says-he-will-pardon-someone-very-very-important-on-tuesday/

So who do you guys think he will pardon?

2020 would pretty much be complete if he pardons Joe Exotic :ROFL:
 
www.theatlantic.com

No, COVID-19 Is Not a Metaphor

Democrats gave a hero’s welcome to New York Governor Andrew Cuomo despite his mistake-filled early response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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The opening night of the Democrats’ virtual convention was the beginning of a coronation for Joe Biden, but it was also a victory march for Andrew Cuomo, New York’s governor and a supposed hero of the coronavirus pandemic. “For all the pain and all the tears, our way worked,” Cuomo declared in his five-minute speech. “And it was beautiful.”


“Beautiful” is an odd way to describe a virus that has killed more than 25,000 New Yorkers, or about 15 percent of the total number of Americans who have died from COVID-19. But Cuomo has long been a curious leader for Democrats to hold up as an emblem of successful leadership during the pandemic: He has somehow presided over the worst and deadliest coronavirus outbreak in the country while eluding the widespread criticism that has surrounded both President Donald Trump and New York City’s Democratic mayor, Bill de Blasio.

In contrast to other prominent state and local leaders, Cuomo’s initial response to the coronavirus outbreak was slow and mistake-filled. He initially balked at issuing stay-at-home orders while cases mounted and then ordered sick elderly patients out of hospitals and back to nursing homes, where the virus spread like wildfire. But to the unending frustration of Republicans, the governor’s buoyant image has been a study in the power of public communication to overshadow policy failures: Cuomo’s detailed, candid, and often weirdly funny daily briefings became appointment television for New Yorkers stuck in their homes and for a national cable audience transfixed by a leader who, unlike Trump, was tackling the crisis head-on
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Beginning in 2000, the Postal Service quietly slashed delivery targets in much of the nation for first-class mail going beyond local areas. A 2006 Postal Regulatory Commission report found that the Postal Service scorned federal law requiring the “highest consideration” to speedy mail delivery. Instead, “administrative convenience resulted in mapping coverage of the two-day standard exclusively in terms of surface transportation.” The commission found that “postal patrons in several Western states, including California, experienced far more service downgrades than those in other parts of the country.”

In 2015, the Postal Service effectively eliminated overnight mail delivery even for local mail in much of the nation. With revised standards, “mail was considered on time if it took four to five days to arrive instead of three,” the Washington Post noted. Fifty-one senators and 160 House members ineffectively protested the slowdown. Roanoke, Virginia residents were skewered because local mail processing was shifted to Greensboro, North Carolina, doubling the time necessary for crosstown mail delivery.
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https://www.aier.org/article/mail-slowdowns-started-50-years-before-trump/

Shock and horror as a government monopoly is shown to be bloated and inefficient.
 
www.nzherald.co.nz

'Patently wrong' Don: PM shoots down Trump's NZ Covid claim

Jacinda Ardern has hit back at Donald Trump.
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Covid 19 coronavirus: PM Jacinda Ardern says Donald Trump's claim NZ is experiencing a surge is 'patently wrong'


Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says Donald Trump's claim New Zealand is experiencing a "surge" in Covid-19 cases is "patently wrong".

"Obviously I don't think there's any comparison between New Zealand's current cluster and the tens of thousands of cases that are being seen daily in the United States," Ardern said today.

"Obviously, every country is experiencing its own fight with Covid-19; it is a tricky virus, but not one where I would compare New Zealand's current status to the United States."
 
cerebus said:
www.nzherald.co.nz

'Patently wrong' Don: PM shoots down Trump's NZ Covid claim

Jacinda Ardern has hit back at Donald Trump.
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Covid 19 coronavirus: PM Jacinda Ardern says Donald Trump's claim NZ is experiencing a surge is 'patently wrong'


Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says Donald Trump's claim New Zealand is experiencing a "surge" in Covid-19 cases is "patently wrong".

"Obviously I don't think there's any comparison between New Zealand's current cluster and the tens of thousands of cases that are being seen daily in the United States," Ardern said today.

"Obviously, every country is experiencing its own fight with Covid-19; it is a tricky virus, but not one where I would compare New Zealand's current status to the United States."
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If they were not experiencing a surge then why the drastic measures?

New Zealand is going to be a fun one to watch. Their strategy is essentially to destroy the economy until a vaccine is developed. And since elections are now delayable, it can be indefinite.
 
konfab said:
If they were not experiencing a surge then why the drastic measures?

New Zealand is going to be a fun one to watch. Their strategy is essentially to destroy the economy until a vaccine is developed. And since elections are now delayable, it can be indefinite.
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Their economy is doing fine

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New Zealand economy doing better than expected, finance minister says

New Zealand's economy is doing better than predicted, thanks to an early economic and health response to the coronavirus pandemic, the finance minister said on Monday.
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cerebus said:
Their economy is doing fine

www.reuters.com

New Zealand economy doing better than expected, finance minister says

New Zealand's economy is doing better than predicted, thanks to an early economic and health response to the coronavirus pandemic, the finance minister said on Monday.
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I don't think so.

And it hasn’t ended yet. In total, more than 67,000 Kiwis have gone onto an unemployment benefit since 20 March – that’s more in four months than during the entire downturn following the global financial crisis. Around 450,000 workers are also still covered by the wage subsidy extension, which has helped to stem job losses. But with the end of this government support approaching, and the global economic outlook continuing to weaken, all signs are for worse to come for the New Zealand economy.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...masks-a-deeper-covid-hit-to-the-labour-market

International borders are going to probably stay closed for the foreseeable future in NZ:
  • Tourism generates a direct annual contribution to GDP of $16.2 billion, or 5.8%, and a further indirect contribution of $11.2 billion, another 4% of New Zealand’s total GDP.
  • 229,566 people are directly and another 163,713 indirectly employed in tourism in New Zealand – 14.4% of the total number of people employed in New Zealand.
  • The annual GST paid by tourists is $3.8 billion, including $1.8 billion collected from international visitors.
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https://tia.org.nz/about-the-industry/quick-facts-and-figures/#:~:text=Tourism is New Zealand's biggest,of New Zealand's total GDP.

How long do you think they can shutter up economic activity, especially one like tourism? Vaccines take about 18 months to develop. Which means they will have to play this game for quite some time.
 
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