US Election 2020 - Pt 2

[konfab]

I don't know if this has been posted, but this is what should be done for every political speech by every politician in the world.

 

[buka001]

The Nazis had their eagles looking both left and right, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler.

So either way, Trump would have been accused of using a Nazi symbol.

I know.

It is just another troll by his campaign.

Its used like that to blur the lines, to trigger responses from all sides.

It kind of could be, but it also kind of could not be.

It is not, but it is close enough to elicit the responses and attention they want.

 

[lumeer]

Having now read up more about the symbolism that Trump uses, I agree that the use of an eagle in his campaign emblem is more than coincidence. I don't think that he is a neonazi himself, but he wants to ingratiate himself to the neonazis that form a substantial portion of his base, and he gets a kick out of trolling the left.

 

[greg0205]

I don't know if this has been posted, but this is what should be done for every political speech by every politician in the world.

But how do you know for certain she *didn’t* say ‘the fire will have your soul’?

Like for certain certain?

 

[buka001]

An upside down red triangle is a damn obscure Nazi symbol, ive never once seen any Nazis carry it around.

The Nazis didn't wear it. They used the red triangle to mark leftist political prisoners in concentration camps.

So the triangle was used on an ad targeting leftist ideology, using 14 words and was posted 88 times to facebook.

 

[buka001]

Having now read up more about the symbolism that Trump uses, I agree that the use of an eagle in his campaign emblem is more than coincidence. I don't think that he is a neonazi himself, but he wants to ingratiate himself to the neonazis that form a substantial portion of his base, and he gets a kick out of trolling the left.

Almost. I don't think he actively wants to ingratiate himself with neo nazis.

He probably has no idea that half of what he says is like sweet music for neo-nazis.

There is no way Trump knows about this stupid shirt or that stupid facebook ad. He is too stupid for that.

But one particular person in his team, Stephen Miller, knows and he would be the one who gets someone to commission these type of things that blur the lines and are plausibly deniable on the mainstream front, but act as big dog whistles to the Neo-Nazis who are looking for someone to follow.

 

[greg0205]

Having now read up more about the symbolism that Trump uses, I agree that the use of an eagle in his campaign emblem is more than coincidence. I don't think that he is a neonazi himself, but he wants to ingratiate himself to the neonazis that form a substantial portion of his base, and he gets a kick out of trolling the left.

It’s why they’re called dog-whistles.

They’re intended for a very specific audience who read and hear ‘em loud and clear, while everyone else doesn’t.

 

[lumeer]

A while back I watched a video by Dr Todd Grande about speech patterns in narcissistic individuals. One of the things that he mentioned is that narcissists will often say "not many people know this". This actually means that the narcissist didn't know it, but the narcissist instead says that not many people know the fact, because (a) the narcissist sees themself as more intelligent than others, so they assume, from the fact that they were unaware of something, that others were too, and (b) the narcissist will not admit fallibility.

 

[boramk]

A while back I watched a video by Dr Todd Grande about speech patterns in narcissistic individuals. One of the things that he mentioned is that narcissists will often say "not many people know this". This actually means that the narcissist didn't know it, but the narcissist instead says that not many people know the fact, because (a) the narcissist sees themself as more intelligent than others, so they assume, from the fact that they were unaware of something, that others were too, and (b) the narcissist will not admit fallibility.

I don’t think its a secret even in the right that he is a textbook narcissist.

 

[Unhappy1]

And this?

Time stamp for the triangle? Im not seeing it.

The Nazis didn't wear it. They used the red triangle to mark leftist political prisoners in concentration camps.

So the triangle was used on an ad targeting leftist ideology, using 14 words and was posted 88 times to facebook.

Its damn obscure either way.

 

[buka001]

Time stamp for the triangle? Im not seeing it.



Its damn obscure either way.

Agreed. It is sketchy. I get the impression that is their point, to troll and trigger people like me, who recognise stuff like that, but can easily play the plausible deniability card.

 

[konfab]

It’s why they’re called dog-whistles.

They’re intended for a very specific audience who read and hear ‘em loud and clear, while everyone else doesn’t.

You sound like a fundamental Christian who is claiming that there are satanic references in Pokemon.

 

[Grant]

Democrats still not presented a black presidential candidate?

 

[konfab]

It’s why they’re called dog-whistles.

They’re intended for a very specific audience who read and hear ‘em loud and clear, while everyone else doesn’t.

A while back I watched a video by Dr Todd Grande about speech patterns in narcissistic individuals. One of the things that he mentioned is that narcissists will often say "not many people know this". This actually means that the narcissist didn't know it, but the narcissist instead says that not many people know the fact, because (a) the narcissist sees themself as more intelligent than others, so they assume, from the fact that they were unaware of something, that others were too, and (b) the narcissist will not admit fallibility.

Some things line up beautifully.

 

[cerebus]

Time stamp for the triangle? Im not seeing it.

There's no triangle. He reposted his fans shouting white power. Is it really a stretch to think that he's deliberately appealing to a racist base?

Its damn obscure either way.

It's not that obscure, I've seen the symbol before in history. 14 and 88 and all that stuff is obscure unless you're steeped in it as white nationalists are.

 

[konfab]

It's not that obscure, I've seen the symbol before in history. 14 and 88 and all that stuff is obscure unless you're steeped in it as white nationalists are.

Well I admit, you have got me.

 

[AlmightyBender]

A while back I watched a video by Dr Todd Grande about speech patterns in narcissistic individuals. One of the things that he mentioned is that narcissists will often say "not many people know this". This actually means that the narcissist didn't know it, but the narcissist instead says that not many people know the fact, because (a) the narcissist sees themself as more intelligent than others, so they assume, from the fact that they were unaware of something, that others were too, and (b) the narcissist will not admit fallibility.

Trump does this every single day.

 

[Unhappy1]

There's no triangle. He reposted his fans shouting white power. Is it really a stretch to think that he's deliberately appealing to a racist base?




It's not that obscure, I've seen the symbol before in history. 14 and 88 and all that stuff is obscure unless you're steeped in it as white nationalists are.

You're jumping all over the place, im struggling to keep up.

 

[cerebus]

You're jumping all over the place, im struggling to keep up.

I'm showing you a number of incidents that happened over the last week related to Trump signalling his racism. The eagle, the red triangle, the price of the baseball, the video of his supporters shouting 'white power'. It's all one thing and it's a bit of a stretch to think that it could be coincidental. Some of it is more debatable (like the baseball being $88), but it adds up to a considerable amount of evidence.

 

[konfab]

I'm showing you a number of incidents that happened over the last week related to Trump signalling his racism. The eagle, the red triangle, the price of the baseball, the video of his supporters shouting 'white power'. It's all one thing and it's a bit of a stretch to think that it could be coincidental. Some of it is more debatable (like the baseball being $88), but it adds up to a considerable amount of evidence.

YOU JUST NEED TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE