US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%

  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%
  • Total voters
    374
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daveza said:
Perhaps we should ask those 7.5 million who have the virus and the 207,000 deceased whether they would prefer no lockdown, or a battered economy, but with their health or a life.
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What's the current stats on dying from CovID vs starvation?
 
Kieppie said:
That wasn't my opinion that's the view of the experts as well.

If you want to compare SA to Sweden using only superficial death % then sure SA looks better 6.29% vs 2.49% but that does not actually mean all that much. If you want an accurate picture you need to include the age demographic and the % of people exposed to the virus. All of which is skewed in our favour
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There we go, a little convenient goal shifting by introducing an age demographic as criteria.

I'll see your age demographic and raise with my abject poverty, lack of housing, electricity, toilets and running water
 
daveza said:
Death is long term. Doesn't care about the economy.
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The lack of economy is death you fool. Once the non Covid deaths surpasses that of Covid then people like you will be to blame.
 
daveza said:
Don't know.

Do you have the stats of how many in the US have died from starvation in the last 6 months ?
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So far 130k people have died because of the lockdowns in he US. That is not starvation as luckily they over produced food. However the thousands of people that lined up for food parcels was worrying. I don't even want to know what it's like in 3rd world countries.

Are you a teenager that you can't understand how these systems are integrated and more complex than just a privileged few working remotely.
 
Grant said:
There we go, a little convenient goal shifting by introducing an age demographic as criteria.

I'll see your age demographic and raise with my abject poverty, lack of housing, electricity, toilets and running water
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Well done. You included some valid parameters. You proved my point for me. Each country is different, but the age grouping is the most prominent, followed by underlying conditions which we have due to the factors you mentioned.

Side note : An interesting study would be to see how much living in sterilized environments weaken your immune system vs poverty which increases your exposure to diseases.
 
The word of the day is 'tergiversation'.

Tergiversation
noun

1. evasion of straightforward action or clear-cut statement : EQUIVOCATION
2. desertion of a cause, position, party, or faith
 
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Kieppie said:
So far 130k people have died because of the lockdowns in he US. That is not starvation as luckily they over produced food. However the thousands of people that lined up for food parcels was worrying. I don't even want to know what it's like in 3rd world countries.

Are you a teenager that you can't understand how these systems are integrated and more complex than just a privileged few working remotely.
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Yet not as food secure as to sustain feeding people.

Some articles mostly about children:
www.forbes.com

More People May Die From Hunger Than From The Coronavirus This Year, Says Aid Group Oxfam

While big business continues to earn big payouts, inequality is the true virus.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

www.brookings.edu

The COVID-19 crisis has already left too many children hungry in America

In this blog post, Lauren Bauer documents new evidence from two nationally representative surveys that were initiated to provide up-to-date estimates of the consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic, including the incidence of food insecurity.
www.brookings.edu www.brookings.edu

www.inquirer.com

Children are hungry in nearly 14 million households during pandemic, study finds

Before March 13, the day the federal government declared a national emergency, the number of households with hungry children was just over 12 million. That has increased more than 1.5 million in four months.
www.inquirer.com www.inquirer.com
Meanwhile, Chilton warned, in America “the public health crisis of increased food insecurity will last for decades as children will bring their major health and social problems from lack of proper food with them into adulthood.
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Great to double hunger during a pandemic making food deprived people more susceptible.

But I looking at this through the political lens is a no-win for the orange man, give him the stick.
 
daveza said:
Don't worry, when you get to my age nothing will surprise you anymore.
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Doubtful. I've been surprised by how stupid the average person is since I was young and I'm still surprised. I doubt stupidity is decreasing in today's age. I'll have more wrinkles and less hair is all.
 
Kieppie said:
Doubtful. I've been surprised by how stupid the average person is since I was young and I'm still surprised. I doubt stupidity is decreasing in today's age. I'll have more wrinkles and less hair is all.
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Hey, there’s still your voice breaking, facial hair and your skin clearing up to look forward to as well.
 
greg0205 said:
Imagine spending months defending the guy who's trying to eliminate SNAP, and then using starvation as a weapon.

Imagine it.
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Yep, I can imagine it. Not everybody gets it that resources are finite. But of course, I also get it that some people want to politicize common sense.

People get their food from a food store. Milk comes from bottles ...
Please don't sleep in a short sleeve t-shirt either.
(if I have to apply your logic)
 
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