US Election 2020

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boramk said:
We agree that there may be voter fraud. I'm asking you how you can scale it. Let's say Biden wanted to orchestrate voter fraud over mail, how is this done? Ask every liberal dad in the country to fill in for the entire family and not get caught? Hire agents who will go to each polling station and just say a random name?

I'm genuinely curious. Because the system from the way I've experienced it it's impossible. And anyone who thinks this is possible to orchestrate mass voter fraud hasn't every been a project manager :p
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I think a lot of the suspicions come from all the underhanded things the demos did last election , shareblue and all that .
Im not sure how it could be done but then again im not sufficiently invested to the tune of billions of dollars as these parties are.
 
Jabulani22 said:
I think a lot of the suspicions come from all the underhanded things the demos did last election , shareblue and all that .
Im not sure how it could be done but then again im not sufficiently invested to the tune of billions of dollars as these parties are.
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What did they do last election? We've checked mail voting off since it isn't easy.

Just a heads up man - when you vote here, your name is checked off from a list. When the vote is counted, it is checked off from the check off to confirm the person voted. You can't send 100 mail in ballots under my name, that will be immediately flagged.
 
boramk said:
We can agree that face checking is less likely to have biases?

If the President says hydroxychloroquine has benefits against COVID and a fact checker says there is no substantial enough evidence of this yet, the fact check isn't biased. There's literally isn't conclusive evidence.

The bias would be to say it in fact DOES treat COVID, or that it DOES NOT.

Can agree on this?
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The word play is in "conclusive".
There are studies that show benefits and others that do not. And given the fact that likely more than 50% of medical studies are BS, saying something is or isn't conclusive is pretty meaningless now.

The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness
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Even if a study showed there was "conclusive" evidence, how can we be sure that study wasn't part of the 50% of BS research out there?
 
boramk said:
What did they do last election? We've checked mail voting off since it isn't easy.

Just a heads up man - when you vote here, your name is checked off from a list. When the vote is counted, it is checked off from the check off to confirm the person voted. You can't send 100 mail in ballots under my name, that will be immediately flagged.
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Yeah voters are checked pretty similarily around the world , it would be hard but not impossible is my point .
While the repubs are no saints i do feel the general behaviour of demos has been even worse , throwing bernie under the bus last election comes to mind , if your party is prepared to do that and hide it then i imagine they dont really care about their voters either.
(i dont even like old communism for you but not me Bernie)
Give yang a chance with his freedom dividend he could win and restore faith in the DNC, maybe.
 
Jabulani22 said:
Yeah voters are checked pretty similarily around the world , it would be hard but not impossible is my point .
While the repubs are no saints i do feel the general behaviour of demos has been even worse , throwing bernie under the bus last election comes to mind , if your party is prepared to do that and hide it then i imagine they dont really care about their voters either.
(i dont even like old communism for you but not me Bernie)
Give yang a chance with his freedom dividend he could win and restore faith in the DNC, maybe.
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The small difference between the two plutocratic parties is that the Reptards are quite upfront in how they will screw you over while the Demtards put up a nice face to get the bleeding heart bleeding brains types to vote for them while they stab you in the back.
 
Jabulani22 said:
Yeah voters are checked pretty similarily around the world , it would be hard but not impossible is my point .
While the repubs are no saints i do feel the general behaviour of demos has been even worse , throwing bernie under the bus last election comes to mind , if your party is prepared to do that and hide it then i imagine they dont really care about their voters either.
(i dont even like old communism for you but not me Bernie)
Give yang a chance with his freedom dividend he could win and restore faith in the DNC, maybe.
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Still haven't given me how there would be cheating? We both said for a couple of times know its possible, But in the tunes of millions, how?

Also I don't believe the DNC had any real away in who won 2016's primary. Bernie isn't as popular as a lot of my friends believe him to be. We are all in this bubble where we think people think like us when our conversations for example point out isn't the case. Long story short: Hillary beat Bernie fair and square, same way Biden did. Despite what Facebook and my 20 something friends tell me, I don't think suburban moms in North Carolina get excited at the idea of a revolution and socialism,
 
Techne said:
The small difference between the two plutocratic parties is that the Reptards are quite upfront in how they will screw you over while the Demtards put up a nice face to get the bleeding heart bleeding brains types to vote for them while they stab you in the back.
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And both sides playing identity politics hides this very well from people devoid of critical thought.
In fact the demos/repubs have such a good system in place they can be caught doing anything they like and still survive it .
 
boramk said:
Still haven't given me how there would be cheating? We both said for a couple of times know its possible, But in the tunes of millions, how?

Also I don't believe the DNC had any real away in who won 2016's primary. Bernie isn't as popular as a lot of my friends believe him to be. We are all in this bubble where we think people think like us when our conversations for example point out isn't the case. Long story short: Hillary beat Bernie fair and square, same way Biden did. Despite what Facebook and my 20 something friends tell me, I don't think suburban moms in North Carolina get excited at the idea of a revolution and socialism,
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My answer was this - if i had billions of dollars invested i could probably tell you or get someone to find out how to rig it , i obviously dont and as such dont have the answer ,even that first past the gate in counting thing could be used in either mail in or stand in voting to skew it .

There are emails which were leaked which showed bernie got shafted , but did he really ? nope because they all at the trough getting paid while actually providing no real alternative to the other party policies.

Whats not to like about revolution and socialism ? free stuff man.
 
greg0205 said:
Maybe... maybe post a link to the article to substantiate your post.

You know how to do that, right?
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Wikileaks has some info greg , if you followed 2016 election you would know greg .
its well documented there was a bias greg .
You also have a tendency to not read links greg.
 
Jabulani22 said:
And both sides playing identity politics hides this very well from people devoid of critical thought.
In fact the demos/repubs have such a good system in place they can be caught doing anything they like and still survive it .
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Yeah well this thread is very good evidence of how people devoid of critical thought fall for partisan idiocy. Bread and circuses to entertain the masses and prevent them from noticing how the plutocrats and oligarchs screw them over.
 
Apropos of nothing

2016 Democratic primary results:

Hillary Clinton: 16 917 853 votes, 34 contests won and 2 842 delegates
Bernie Sanders: 13 210 550 votes, 23 contests won and 1 864 delegates
 
Jabulani22 said:
Wikileaks has some info greg , if you followed 2016 election you would know greg .
its well documented there was a bias greg .
You also have a tendency to not read links greg.
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A big problem for the Demtards is that the progressives started to notice how the DNC machine fux them over every time and they had enough.
 
Jabulani22 said:
Wikileaks has some info greg , if you followed 2016 election you would know greg .
its well documented there was a bias greg .
You also have a tendency to not read links greg.
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Jabulani22 said:
So the NYT article about him being done out of the running is fake ?

oh ok
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You said the NYT.

You said there was an NYT article about him being done out of the running.

The NYT.

Post the NYT.

This is not hard.
 
Techne said:
A big problem for the Demtards is that the progressives started to notice how the DNC machine fux them over every time and they had enough.
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I sometimes wonder how these people can live in a vacuum of information regarding their person/party in the matter but at the same time seem to suck in all information about the other side and spew it as facts regardless of its state ........cognitive bias/dissonance is a real thing.
 
greg0205 said:
You said the NYT.

You said there was an NYT article about him being done out of the running.

The NYT.

Post the NYT.

This is not hard.
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I also said you dont do well with reading my links greg , google it as i think that will be more rewarding for you , its a well established thing that the DNC favoured hillary and undermined bernie , its not hard .
 
Jabulani22 said:
I sometimes wonder how these people can live in a vacuum of information regarding their person/party in the matter but at the same time seem to suck in all information about the other side and spew it as facts regardless of its state ........cognitive bias/dissonance is a real thing.
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It is a "decent folk" way of thinking. Not for plebs.
 
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