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Bill pardoning Roger Clinton says everything you need to know about the Clintons.
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Nevermind the pardonings...how about all the people who cross the Clintons and then just happen to have fatal "accidents"?
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*cough*epsteindidntkillhimself*cough*
 
scudsucker said:
It is pretty dodgy.

But seeing as we are all on a "whatabout" spree, how much money did Roger donate to Bill?
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Yeah, we are all kind of tired of this "yeah we know Obama was sht but what about Trump" whataboutism... but ok:rolleyes:
 
Techne said:
Yeah, we are all kind of tired of this "yeah we know Obama was sht but what about Trump" whataboutism... but ok:rolleyes:
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Hey! It's a major breakthrough! Whataboutism is now in disfavor and will be called out by our man Techne when he sees it.
 
scudsucker said:
Hey! It's a major breakthrough! Whataboutism is now in disfavor and will be called out by our man Techne when he sees it.
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Never cared for it, still don't, but won't let a chance pass to hang the bitchers and moaners on their own little petard.
 
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Nevada turnout (2008): 118 000
Nevada turnout (2016): 84 000

Currently 57 000 (if you take initial votes) or 55 000 (if you take final votes) with 60 percent of precincts in. I doubt it will break the 2008 record.
 
Ancalagon said:
I love how the Liberals say that things are worse than they have ever been, except, you know, all of the stuff that matters.
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Fun to make up claims with zero substantiation.

Ancalagon said:
Again, read some books and educate yourself on the subject. Fascism != national populism.
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Those two are not mutually exclusive. You reading it in a book doesn't mean anything, either. What book, and what's the actual argument?

Aquila ka Hecate said:
I know what you mean.
But I was certainly around 20 years ago - and around gay people, too , quite a lot - and I didn't see much acheived by spectacles.
I saw a lot more being acheived by legislation and reason.
Honestly, people who are scared of teh Gay are much more likely to be persuaded by reason than by spectacle.
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Legislation came after relentless campaigning, though. And I'm really curious where you think reason ever won out. It's more an after the fact rationalisation. Not what happens in real time.

cerebus said:
Ok here’s a simple exercise: find a case of a non-white supremacist ‘celebrating whiteness’. I wonder what that would even look like.
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Going by some of the responses here it's just endless victimhood and persecution complexes.

Unhappy438 said:
MSNBC is out of its mind over Sanders leading Nevada
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Chris Matthews' insane meltdown is so stupid.

This can't be the case, though - we've been told MSNBC is far left!
 
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Trump’s New Spy Chief Used to Work for a Foreign Politician the U.S. Accused of Corruption

Richard Grenell did not disclose payments for advocacy work on behalf of a Moldovan politician whom the U.S. later accused of corruption. His own office’s policy says that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail.
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Richard Grenell did not disclose payments for advocacy work on behalf of a Moldovan politician whom the U.S. later accused of corruption. His own office’s policy says that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail.
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The crony Trump appointed to head ODNI.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
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Can breadline Bernie really compete in the economic arena with these numbers?
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First 2020 Election Survey

The Elections Research Center conducted surveys in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on February 11-20 that asked voting-age citizens which presidential candidate they plan to vote for in the primary and general elections. Among other items, the survey asked respondents planning to...
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Trump's unpopularity is still remarkable in the context of the general economic sentiment among the population.
 
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Trump Costing Taxpayers And Putting Money In His Pocket With Stay At His Own Hotel

The president insisted on returning to Las Vegas each night of his western states swing, rather than overnighting where he was appearing.
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President Donald Trump’s choice to stay at his own Las Vegas hotel each night during the western states swing that wraps up Friday likely cost taxpayers a million extra dollars as well as diverted thousands of them into his own cash registers.

Previous presidents on extended trips away from the White House typically stayed in the city of each day’s final event, or traveled to the city of the following day’s first event. Trump, instead, traveled back to Las Vegas each night from California, Arizona and Colorado to overnight at his Trump International Hotel ― requiring several extra hours’ flying time on Air Force One, a plane that costs taxpayers about a quarter-million dollars per hour in the air.
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Joe Biden claims he was arrested in Soweto while trying to visit Nelson Mandela on Robben Island

In at least three campaign appearances over the past two weeks, Joe Biden has told a similar story as he tries to revive his campaign in states with more diverse voters. On a trip to South Africa years ago, he has said, he was arrested as he sought to visit Nelson Mandela in prison.

“This day, 30 years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid,” Biden said at a campaign event in South Carolina last week. “I had the great honor of meeting him. I had the great honor of being arrested with our UN ambassador on the streets of Soweto trying to get to see him on Robbens Island.”

Biden referred to his own arrest twice more in the next seven days, including at a campaign stop here on Tuesday where he spoke of getting arrested in South Africa between efforts to coax his wife to marry him. That proposal occurred in 1977, both Bidens have said.

But if Biden, then a US senator from Delaware, was in fact arrested while trying to visit Mandela, he did not mention it in his 2007 memoir when writing about a 1970s trip to South Africa, and he has not spoken of it prominently on the 2020 campaign trail. A check of available news accounts by The New York Times turned up no references to an arrest. South African arrest records are not readily available in the United States.

Andrew Young, a former congressman and mayor of Atlanta who was the US ambassador to the United Nations from 1977 to 1979, said that he had travelled with Biden over the years, including to South Africa. But Young said that he had never been arrested in South Africa and expressed skepticism that members of Congress would have faced arrest there.
“No, I was never arrested and I don’t think he was, either,” Young, now 87, said in a telephone interview.

The Times could not account for all of the details of Biden’s overseas travel during the period that included the South Africa trip. Biden’s campaign did not respond to five efforts to seek comment and clarification.

Biden’s repetition in recent days of the story about an arrest in South Africa comes as he confronts challenging political headwinds. He regularly uses his remarks to try to connect with black voters, such as saying in Nevada and elsewhere that he was “raised in the black church.”

In South Carolina in particular, Biden is pinning his hopes on a strong showing with African American voters, a constituency with which he polled strongly throughout much of the race, though he now faces increasing competition for the support of black voters.
After recounting the story of his arrest while campaigning in South Carolina last week, Biden subsequently told it twice more in Nevada, mistakenly saying Robbens Island instead of Robben, where Mandela was held for much of his 27-year imprisonment.

And on Sunday, as he had in South Carolina, he also delivered a coda to the story.
“After he got free and became president, he came to Washington and came to my office,” Biden said of Mandela at a black history awards brunch in Las Vegas. “He threw his arms around me and said, ‘I want to say thank you.’ I said, ‘What are you thanking me for, Mr President?’ He said, ‘You tried to see me. You got arrested trying to see me.’”


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Joe Biden claims he was arrested in Soweto while trying to visit Nelson Mandela on Robben Island | IOL News

Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden said that on a trip to SA years ago he was arrested as he sought to visit Nelson Mandela in prison.
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Federal judge rejects Roger Stone's request for her recusal
Stone's request was nothing more than an attempt to "to disseminate a statement for public consumption that has the words 'judge' and 'biased' in it," the judge wrote.

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A federal judge denied former Trump adviser Roger Stone's request for her recusal from a potential new trial, saying in an order Sunday that there was no factual or legal basis to Stone's claims.

The judge, Amy Berman Jackson, of U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., sentenced Stone to three years and four months in prison last week for obstructing a congressional investigation into Russia's meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

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The rise and fall of the 'trysexual' dirty trickster Roger Stone

Roger Stone was found guilty of obstructing justice, witness tampering and lying to Congress Friday, bringing his decades-long political career to an end.
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