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rietrot said:
They haven't thought that far ahead(or back) yet. This is outrage culture. Live in the moment and be mad at something.
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The shrunken amygdala, constantly triggered and medicated snowflake era. Fun times. I can't wait for the next round:crylaugh:.
 
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Outrage is such a strong word. But no I was unaware that a 'soccer mom' from Redondo Beach hung an effigy of Obama out her window for Halloween in 2008. As for Pastor Jones attention seeking antics maybe but I'd have to go back and look. He burned a Koran as well IIRC.

Perhaps you have some protestors attacking Obama effigies or something to help jog my memory. Like these good liberals at the recent anti Trump protests in London....

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Have you thought this through at all? What would you consider the appropriate action?
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I don't know, you tell me. Imagine an alternate universe with a Democratic president who should actually be held accountable for his actions and think about how they should respond if their intelligence officers came with solid evidence of interference by a foreign agency in their electoral system. I know the cognitive dissonance might break you, but do your best.
 
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Outrage is such a strong word. But no I was unaware that a 'soccer mom' from Redondo Beach hung an effigy of Obama out her window for Halloween in 2008. As for Pastor Jones attention seeking antics maybe but I'd have to go back and look. He burned a Koran as well IIRC.

Perhaps you have some protestors attacking Obama effigies or something to help jog my memory. Like these good liberals at the recent anti Trump protests in London....

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Well, if we're broadening our minds now, you're going to love this... Michael Scheuer, former CIA as well as NYT bestselling author of Imperial Hubris...

From his blog. Enjoy:

Finally, this week saw a significant and quickening advance toward the moment when those millions of well-armed citizens who voted for Trump, and who have been abused or wounded by Democrats, their Antifa-thugs, and their thug-civil servants for exercising their franchise to elect Trump, cannot be, in good conscience, patient for much longer.

Fortunately, they have in hand a long and very precise list of the names and photographs of those who hate and threaten them, their families, their way-of-life, their liberty, their livelihoods and their republic. No self-respecting and determined-to-remain-independent citizenry can let themselves forever be held hostage by thug-civil-servants like Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Page, and Rosenstein; worshipers of tyranny, like the Democratic members of Congress, the Clintons, the FBI, and the Obamas; apparent traitors like Brennan, Hayden, and Clapper; all of the mainstream media; and the tens of thousands of government-admitted-and-protected, violent, criminal, and illegal immigrants.

American patriots have so far, praise God, been remarkably disciplined in not responding to tyranny and violence with violence. For now they must remain so, armed but steady. But the time for such patience is fast slipping away; indeed, that patience is quickly becoming an obviously rank and self-destructive foolishness. If Trump does not act soon to erase the above noted tyranny and tyrants, the armed citizenry must step in and eliminate them.

It is, of course, far better if Trump does so, and I pray and believe he will. That said, the sheer, nay, utter joy and satisfaction to be derived from beholding great piles of dead U.S.-citizen tyrants is not one that will be missed if Trump does not soon do the necessary to save the republic. But if he fails, the citizenry must act to ensure that Hillary’s predictive words are proven correct. “If Trump wins,” she apparently said, “we will all hang.”
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http://non-intervention.com/3238/a-...y-is-to-kill-those-seeking-to-impose-tyranny/
 
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rietrot said:
Whataboutism. Or is your side allowed to do that?



O look supporting whataboutism.
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No. Just curious on whether Alan provided commentary on similar expressions of individuals rights to free speech? I am sure Alan would not like to define himself as hypocritical.
 
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cerebus said:
I don't know, you tell me. Imagine an alternate universe with a Democratic president who should actually be held accountable for his actions and think about how they should respond if their intelligence officers came with solid evidence of interference by a foreign agency in their electoral system. I know the cognitive dissonance might break you, but do your best.
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Okay so you don't know and you can't come to a reasonable alternative yet you want to moan anyway.

What should happen if one country is caught interfering with another countries election at about this scale is:
1. Everyone acts angry for a week
2. Some newspaper reports
3. They call the ambassador and moan at him a little bit.
4. Maybe one peaceful protest.
5. Then everyone goes on with their lifes because they know it happens all the time.

Example of a democratic president interfering directly and openly in another country's elections:
https://www.politico.eu/article/nig...by-campaigning-against-brexit-eu-referendum/#

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/249070

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-macron-in-last-minute-election-intervention

What you don't do is engage in tit for tat punishments until you start a war.
Russia maybe hacked some people and published fack news or Twitter bots or whatever. Get over it.
 
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Trump: The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media.
Lol. And he can say that because the MSM is rightfully despised and untrustworthy, even more so than chief liar in charge.
 
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Trump: The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media.
Lol. And he can say that because the MSM is rightfully despised and untrustworthy, even more so than chief liar in charge.
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Lol indeed. Trump is in great company with that phrase: Mao-tse Tung, Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler also used it to describe the press.
 
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Aquila ka Hecate said:
Lol indeed. Trump is in great company with that phrase: Mao-tse Tung, Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler also used it to describe the press.
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A dysfunctional press with contemporary dysfunctional leaders... Even more reason to tell the MSM to go suck a lemon.
 
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Meanwhile the government is still forcing 1 year olds to defend themselves in court.

From Crib To Court: Trump Administration Summons Immigrant Infants

The Trump administration has summoned at least 70 children under 1 year old to immigration court for their own deportation proceedings since Oct. 1, according to new Justice Department data provided exclusively to Kaiser Health News.

These children, who may be staying with a sponsor or in a foster care arrangement, need frequent touching and bonding with a parent and naps every few hours, and some are of breastfeeding age, medical experts say. They’re unable to speak and still learning when it’s day versus night.
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Meanwhile the government is still forcing 1 year olds to defend themselves in court.

From Crib To Court: Trump Administration Summons Immigrant Infants
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All part of the permanent family separation policy.

[W]hen asked whether a reunification plan was in place on April 6, 2018, Commander White answered: “There was not at that time a specialized plan.” Commander White acknowledged that the Trump Administration began more detailed planning for reunifications only when forced to do so by court order.
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Aquila ka Hecate said:
Lol indeed. Trump is in great company with that phrase: Mao-tse Tung, Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler also used it to describe the press.
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Similarly, we have to confront the fact that during the last three years, the matter has become perfectly clear that the bulk of the mass media in our country has set itself up as force opposed to the ANC.
In a manner akin to what the National Party is doing in its sphere, this media exploits the dominant positions it achieved as a result of the apartheid system, to campaign against both real change and the real agents of change, as represented by our movement, led by the ANC.
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