US politics general thread

[cerebus]

Have you even listened to some of his debates? He is controversial for sure, but he does make a lot of sense. He has been unjustifiably shut down for no reason whatsoever.

Which of his debates in particular do you think make a lot of sense? Everything I've seen of him just reinforces the impression that he's a vapid craven attention seeking provocateur with no original thoughts, who who uses his homosexuality as a shield to allow him to voice some truly deplorable views. Also, he was "shut down" for very legitimate reasons, and since then nobody has stopped him from making a comeback except that he has no talent and nothing to say.

Do me a favour, and name one Conservative that you respect. If you cannot, you are not looking at any of these issues in a balanced manner.

I respected John McCain a great deal. I actually have no problem with conservatism. I don't consider the modern-day incarnation of the Republican party to be representative of legitimate conservative views.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

So being a pedo is "no reason whatsoever", good to know.

Which you can't prove of course ...

I respected John McCain a great deal

Why?!? Is it because of his anti-Trumpness that got him adopted by lefties?

 

[Cray]

Have you even listened to some of his debates? He is controversial for sure, but he does make a lot of sense. He has been unjustifiably shut down for no reason whatsoever.

How was he shut down exactly...?

 

[Unhappy438]

Have you even listened to some of his debates? He is controversial for sure, but he does make a lot of sense. He has been unjustifiably shut down for no reason whatsoever.

Do me a favour, and name one Conservative that you respect. If you cannot, you are not looking at any of these issues in a balanced manner.

Womp womp, live by the sword, die by the sword. The guy was just a glorified troll.

 

[cerebus]

Why?!? Is it because of his anti-Trumpness that got him adopted by lefties?

He's always been a voice of fairness and moderation, and I would have preferred him over George W Bush in 2000. I do think anti-Trumpness is a virtue today, and honestly anybody on the right side of the spectrum who didn't disavow Trump as an unfit presidential candidate shouldn't be holding an senatorial office. I like to read Jonah Goldberg and Andrew Stiles. Yeah the rest... hoooo boy I'm struggling.

 

[Unhappy438]

He's always been a voice of fairness and moderation, and I would have preferred him over George W Bush in 2000. I do think anti-Trumpness is a virtue today, and honestly anybody on the right side of the spectrum who didn't disavow Trump as an unfit presidential candidate shouldn't be holding an senatorial office. I like to read Jonah Goldberg and Andrew Stiles. Yeah the rest... hoooo boy I'm struggling.

Except he didn't actually disavow him, he might have said a few things but he still more or less voted on party lines. Mccain was a warmonger of note.

 

[cerebus]

Except he didn't actually disavow him, he might have said a few things but he still more or less voted on party lines. Mccain was a warmonger of note.

He voted against Trump on some key issues, like repealing Obamacare. But yeah he didn't actually disavow him, it's true.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

He's always been a voice of fairness and moderation

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Mccain was a warmonger of note.

So much this, of all the conservatives I've known about he certainly wouldn't be on the list of those I respect. Then again it's a damn short list on either side of the spectrum.

 

[buka001]

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Womp womp...

Love the part where he says he is not a victim, despite writing an entire diatribe of how he is the victim.

 

[RanzB]

GOP Senate Candidate Kelli Ward Suggested McCain Timed Health Announcement to Hurt Her Campaign

When Sen. John McCain’s family was getting ready to say their last goodbyes as they informed the world that the former prisoner of war was ending treatment for brain cancer, Arizona GOP Senate candidate Kelli Ward suggested the announcement was all about her. McCain died mere hours after she suggested the announcement was part of an effort to hurt her campaign. Ward, one of three candidates for the Republican Senate nomination in Tuesday’s Arizona primary to replace retiring Sen. Jeff Flake, wrote on Facebook that “I think they wanted to have a particular narrative that they hope is negative to me.”

Ward, a longtime critic of McCain, made that comment in response to a Facebook post by one of her campaign staffers who questioned the timing of the announcement. “I wonder if it were just a coincidence that Sen McCain released his statement on the kickoff day of Kelli Ward’s bus tour or if it was a plan to take media attention off her campaign? I’m not saying it was on purpose but it’s quite interesting,” wrote Jonathan Williams. The post has since been deleted but screenshots have been making the rounds on social media.

Sociopaths, the bunch of them.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...covering-for-leftist-hack-carl-bernstein-over

 

[RanzB]

Love the part where he says he is not a victim, despite writing an entire diatribe of how he is the victim.

Isn't that the snowflake way of the right?

Have you even listened to some of his debates? He is controversial for sure, but he does make a lot of sense. He has been unjustifiably shut down for no reason whatsoever.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos

Much of the work at Breitbart which brought Yiannopoulos to national attention was inspired by the ideas of neo-Nazis and white nationalists. In October 2017, leaked emails revealed that Yiannopoulos had repeatedly solicited neo-Nazi and white supremacist figures on the alt-right for feedback and story ideas in his work for the website Breitbart. The leaked emails also showed that his book, Dangerous, and many of his Breitbart articles were ghost-written by a Breitbart colleague

Yiannopoulos has been accused of being an apologist for or supporting paedophilia, a charge he strenuously denies. The charge arises from a video clip in which he said that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adult men and women can be "perfectly consensual" and positive experiences for the boys

McLennan, formerly bursary manager of the grant, posted criticism of it on social media in August 2016, indicating it was mismanaged and that she had ceased managing the grant the previous March because she had not been paid and that the movement had ended.[65][66] MacLennan sent a tweet which alleged that Yiannopoulos had transferred money intended for the grant to a personal account. MacLennan posted a screenshot of the alleged transfer to support her claim.[67]
Yiannopoulos apologised for mismanaging the grant and admitted that he had missed a deadline for turning donations into bursaries. He denied speculation he had spent the money and blamed a busy schedule. He appointed a new fund administrator, and a pilot grant had been scheduled to begin the following spring, with full disbursement in the 2017/18 academic year.[65] On 31 March 2017, the Privilege Grant website claimed that ten applicants had been selected to receive pilot project grants, though no names or supporting information was released.[68]
In March 2018 Yiannopoulos confirmed that the fund had been closed down

Yiannopoulos has frequently written articles that have been criticised as misogynous. In a Breitbart article titled, "Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy", he asserts that the combined oral contraceptive pill causes women to become hysterical, sexually promiscuous and obese.

In January 2018, Yiannopoulos reported a fictitious news story, written by a spoof news-site, as being true. The article claimed that an English High Court had ruled that the National Health Service was legally obliged to offer cervical smear tests to men. Unaware that the story of was made up, Yiannopoulos argued that the story exemplified the thinking of those living in 'feminist clown world'. Before reading out the article verbatim, Yiannopoulos insisted that he had researched the story and promised that 'this is real, I haven't just made this up'

Throughout the controversy, Yiannopoulos was criticised for [in his words] attending Hollywood "boat parties" and "house parties" in which boys he described as "very young - very young" were sexually abused, but failing to report the abusers to the authorities or to identify them during an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience.[139]
On 10 March, an additional video emerged in which Yiannopoulos said on a 2015 episode of Gavin McInnes' show that child sexual abuse is "really not that big a deal. You can't let it ruin your life." He mocked child sexual-abuse victims by calling them "whinging selfish brats" for "suddenly" remembering they were abused, and "suddenly" deciding it was a problem, 20 years after the abuse occurred. He also stated that a disproportionate number of paedophiles are homosexual

Sorry, you're right. It seems like exactly the sort of person Conservatives would look up to. Sleazy, dishonest, whiny, bigoted, etc etc.

 

[Techne]

Sorry, you're right. It seems like exactly the sort of person Conservatives would look up to. Sleazy, dishonest, whiny, bigoted, etc etc.

Today's cuckserv... I mean conservative becomes tomorrow's liberal. Is this your welcoming speech?

 

[RanzB]

Today's cuckserv... I mean conservative becomes tomorrow's liberal. Is this your welcoming speech?

Lol. Edgy as ever bra. Did you see your overlord Alex Jones got caught watching transgender porn?

Didn't see that coming

 

[Techne]

Lol. Edgy as ever bra. Did you see your overlord Alex Jones got caught watching transgender porn?

Didn't see that coming

You didn't? He doth protest too much. Must be something in his kale or whatever BS products he sells.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Do me a favour, and name one Conservative that you respect. If you cannot, you are not looking at any of these issues in a balanced manner.

David Frum, Max Boot, Benjamin Wittes, Susan Hennessy, Charlie Sykes, Rich Lowry, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, David French, Jonah Goldberg, etc.

I mean, I obviously disagree vigorously with them on a lot of stuff, but they're some of the few conservatives who have actually retained their principles and not just completely abandoned any semblance of ideological coherence in service to the Trump cult.

The idea that charlatans and grifters like Milo Yabadabadopolis, Ben Shapiro and Steve Crowder are considered paragons of conservative intellectual thought is just... baffling. Then again, this is the same stream of offal that emerged out of the Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly brand of 'conservatism'.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Student Loan Watchdog Quits, Says Trump Administration 'Turned Its Back' On Borrowers

The federal official in charge of protecting student borrowers from predatory lending practices has stepped down.

In a scathing resignation letter, Seth Frotman, who until now was the student loan ombudsman at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, says current leadership "has turned its back on young people and their financial futures." The letter was addressed to Mick Mulvaney, the bureau's acting director.

In the letter, obtained by NPR, Frotman accuses Mulvaney and the Trump administration of undermining the CFPB and its ability to protect student borrowers.

"Unfortunately, under your leadership, the Bureau has abandoned the very consumers it is tasked by Congress with protecting," it read. "Instead, you have used the Bureau to serve the wishes of the most powerful financial companies in America."

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Kushner Companies and Michael Cohen Accused of Falsifying Building Permits to Push Out Tenants

Charles Kushner, the developer whose son Jared Kushner is a senior adviser to President Trump, and Michael Cohen, the president’s former personal lawyer, face scrutiny in New York for claims that they falsified construction permits in an attempt to remove rent-regulated tenants from buildings scattered across the city.

On Monday, the city’s Department of Buildings cited Kushner Companies for 42 violations in which it submitted false permit information at 17 buildings, where many of the tenants were protected from steep rent increases and eviction. The fines total $210,000.

A spokeswoman for Kushner Companies said Monday that the violations were “paperwork errors.” The company can contest the citations before an administrative judge. “In no case did the company act in disregard of the safety of our tenants,” said the spokeswoman, Christine Taylor.

Tenant activists also issued a report on Monday based on city and state records that suggested that an investment group led by Mr. Cohen had also falsified construction permits by claiming that three buildings in Manhattan were vacant or without rent-regulated tenants, when they were occupied and many tenants had rental protections.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Secret message board drives 'pizzagate'-style harassment campaign of small businesses.

The theorists are inspired in part by a far-right news website that has been used by prominent Republicans for fundraising efforts.

 

[The_Assimilator]

China studies 'White Trash' to understand Trump

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