US politics general thread

[Emjay]

Everything rises and falls on leadership.

There is definitely leadership to this caravan. Just who is it? Soros? Dems?

The caravan is a mob. A very large one, and with crowds/mobs that size, there is no one in charge. They just become this mindless thing. I really don't think anyone is leading this or directing it. The stories that are moving through it are also probably very different to reality.

The problem with this is when it is time to break things up, it may get violent, and a stampede could break out. Innocents are going to get hurt. Some NPOs will probably set up some shelters and tents to aid with the sick, with food distribution before the border. I wouldn't be surprised if a tent city pops up there, and Mexico has to deal with the mess.

And no matter which way this goes, Trump will receive criticism and condemnation. The only course of action for Trump is a firm one. The immigration debate is why the Dems are losing, and they will continue to lose until it is addressed properly.

 

[Xarog]

Soros, ostensibly the lead left wing "cultural marxist" bogeyman.

Kissenger, a hardline right-wing conservative.

In Xarog's world these two are best friends and "butt buddies".

Jesus, I don't know how he is able to keep track of the "monologue" in his head; but, for the sake of following the forum rules, can we please keep things like this out of N&CA and in OT where they belong?

Apparently I have the best NPC taunts, you guys.

 

[Unhappy438]

Stuck NPC? Are you afraid of being exposed for the non-sentient drone that you are?

Narrow triggering intensifies.

 

[Cray]

Do you have any evidence that Fox is pro-Trump?

...oh wait, you're serious....?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

That site isn't trustworthy.

In general sure, but the links they mention between Soros -> AFGJ -> Refuse Fascism -> Antifa is pretty much spot on.

Also nicely laid out here: https://medium.com/@Sard0n1ca/how-s...is-irrelevant-to-this-discussion-b53a5b9e3283

 

[Unhappy438]

Woosh.

 

[Xarog]

...oh wait, you're serious....?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/8/16263710/fox-news-presidential-vote-study

Yeah, sure am. Give me evidence that Fox isn't part of the establishment that wants Trump gone.

 

[Xarog]

In general sure, but the links they mention between Soros -> AFGJ -> Refuse Fascism -> Antifa is pretty much spot on.

Also nicely laid out here: https://medium.com/@Sard0n1ca/how-s...is-irrelevant-to-this-discussion-b53a5b9e3283

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying I've been burned because of that site in the past.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Narrow triggering intensifies.

Great, another defective troll has emerged.

I'll ignore you for a day or two then seeing as you don't seem remotely interested in anything other than trolling today. Welcome to the scumsucker club, two peas in a pod

PS: don't worry it's not a system-ignore-function style of ignore, merely a conscious decision not to reply to your trolling for a bit, I'll still read your troll posts and laugh at the irony though.

 

[Xarog]

The caravan is a mob. A very large one, and with crowds/mobs that size, there is no one in charge. They just become this mindless thing. I really don't think anyone is leading this or directing it. The stories that are moving through it are also probably very different to reality.

The problem with this is when it is time to break things up, it may get violent, and a stampede could break out. Innocents are going to get hurt. Some NPOs will probably set up some shelters and tents to aid with the sick, with food distribution before the border. I wouldn't be surprised if a tent city pops up there, and Mexico has to deal with the mess.

And no matter which way this goes, Trump will receive criticism and condemnation. The only course of action for Trump is a firm one. The immigration debate is why the Dems are losing, and they will continue to lose until it is addressed properly.

How does some random Honduran or whatever suddenly decide that he's going to travel to the United States and convinces several thousand of his compatriots that his blind march into oblivion in a highly politicised fashion is a good idea?

I just don't see it happening.

 

[Cray]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/8/16263710/fox-news-presidential-vote-study

Yeah, sure am. Give me evidence that Fox isn't part of the establishment that wants Trump gone.

How do I give evidence of an absence of malice, if you think Fox News is on the Anti-Trump wagon surely it's up to you to prove it?

 

[Obronie]

Soros is the most likely candidate as he has a taste for such things. If not Sosos, then it's obviously someone pro-Dem, but I honestly don't know who else would be brazen enough to try this...

Oh the Conspiracy Theory is strong with this one

 

[Unhappy438]

Great, another defective troll has emerged.

I'll ignore you for a day or two then seeing as you don't seem remotely interested in anything other than trolling today. Welcome to the scumsucker club, two peas in a pod

PS: don't worry it's not a system-ignore-function style of ignore, merely a conscious decision not to reply to your trolling for a bit, I'll still read your troll posts and laugh at the irony though.

You're most likely triggered, Occams razor says its so.

 

[Emjay]

How does some random Honduran or whatever suddenly decide that he's going to travel to the United States and convinces several thousand of his compatriots that his blind march into oblivion in a highly politicised fashion is a good idea?

I just don't see it happening.

Because there is a chance at a better life. A chance at the American dream. If these people have nothing, it would not be a hard sell. Especially when there is a crowd. People tend to go along a lot easier if others around them agree.

 

[scudsucker]

Apparently I have the best NPC taunts, you guys.

NPCs by definition cannot respond to taunts. Maybe there is a fatal flaw in your stupid insult?

Or, you think taunting inanimate objects is entertaining. In which case, let me suggest a set of windmills against which you can throw your taunts.

 

[Xarog]

How do I give evidence of an absence of malice, if you think Fox News is on the Anti-Trump wagon surely it's up to you to prove it?

You're the one who says that they have to be pro-Trump such that they would find out the facts if there were facts to find out in order to justify your scepticism that the caravan can't be paid for by Dems(Soros) because nobody has reported upon it.

 

[Xarog]

Oh the Conspiracy Theory is strong with this one

Lol.

So tell me, what do you think of the Trump Russia collusion angle?

 

[Temujin]

NPCs by definition cannot respond to taunts. Maybe there is a fatal flaw in your stupid insult?

Or, you think taunting inanimate objects is entertaining. In which case, let me suggest a set of windmills against which you can throw your taunts.

My warrior has a taunt ability... works 100% everytime on npcs... doesn't work on pcs

 

[Xarog]

NPCs by definition cannot respond to taunts. Maybe there is a fatal flaw in your stupid insult?

http://forum.mmosite.com/thread/2/143/20070803/What_is_Aggro_What_is_Taunt-4da827883cb4dde13-1.html

Or, you think taunting inanimate objects is entertaining. In which case, let me suggest a set of windmills against which you can throw your taunts.

Nope, you'll do just fine, thanks.

 

[Xarog]

Because there is a chance at a better life. A chance at the American dream. If these people have nothing, it would not be a hard sell. Especially when there is a crowd. People tend to go along a lot easier if others around them agree.

I agree that there is a chance for a better life. I can see some individuals risking it on their own terms.

But imagine I started saying to everyone around me "Ok, let's go to the United States!". The first question I would be confronted with is, "how do we get there?" I don't think some rando destitute desperate guy will have the necessary streed cred to convince other people to go along with him. That takes money.