US politics general thread

[Xarog]

If by far the majority of your host is Pro-Trump, talks about him nearly always in a positive light, he nearly exclusively goes for interviews/phone calls with FOX and some have a personal relationship with him then this is a good indication. If they like clockwork shows his multiple deranged speeches live everytime that this is enough evidence to say with confidence that they are Pro Trump.

Ok, so you don't actually have any evidence aside from your opinion. Thought so.

Nope, just go and read a bit what a conspiracy theory is. I'm not going to explain it to you.

The Russian collusion story is a conspiracy theory, hate to break it to you.

 

[Xarog]

You don't need a boat to walk/hitch overland, it's far easier to move overland across a continent, just ask all the Congolese/Nigerians that end up in this country, or where they paid to come here too?

Yeah, and all the vehicles transporting the migrants so they don't have to walk...?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

hell people do it all the time when risking their lives by crossing the Med/ in junk boats

Boat trips they pay for themselves and a number of 14,000 never set sail until the first few batches were let in by the retarded Eurocrats.

They wouldn't have taken the risk en masse unless they expected it to succeed, that's the huge difference between the EU and US here, one has demonstrated a willingness to bend over, the other has not.

 

[Unhappy438]

More crying... ok then.

More triggering... ok then.

 

[Pitbull]

More triggering... ok then.

lol, ooo the irony. You are the one triggered obviously. I'm happy to point out you're wrong all day long. Not like I have anything better to do

 

[Obronie]

Ok, so you don't actually have any evidence aside from your opinion. Thought so.

LOL, you must read as well. Do not just type. I have given you ample evidence.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...p-can-do-no-wrong-fox-news-column/1071392002/

The Russian collusion story is a conspiracy theory, hate to break it to you.

Which is investigated by the Mueller Commission to determine the facts. The fact that Trump has lied on the matter does not look good for him or that his ex buddies all turns against him.

Unlike the TRUMP Nutcases that still whine and whine over Bengazi that was investigated by 4 GOP leaning investigations with nothing to support their stupid theory.

 

[Cray]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/world/americas/honduras-migrant-caravan-voices.html

Voices From the Caravan: Why These Honduran Migrants Are Heading North

 

[Unhappy438]

lol, ooo the irony. You are the one triggered obviously. I'm happy to point out you're wrong all day long. Not like I have anything better to do

Careful all this triggering will result in burst blood vessels within your cranial region which will probably at the very least cause you a headache.

 

[Xarog]

LOL, you must read as well. Do not just type. I have given you ample evidence.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...p-can-do-no-wrong-fox-news-column/1071392002/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...p-can-do-no-wrong-fox-news-column/1071392002/
You gave an opinion. Now you are quoting another opinion piece at me. Do you have any evidence that Manafort's guilty pleas have anything to do with Trump? Yes/No

Which is investigated by the Mueller Commission to determine the facts. The fact that Trump has lied on the matter does not look good for him or that his ex buddies all turns against him.

If he lied on the matter the Dems would already be using that lie to have him impeached. So this is blatantly incorrect.

Unlike the TRUMP Nutcases that still whine and whine over Bengazi that was investigated by 4 GOP leaning investigations with nothing to support their stupid theory.

LOL. Shame dude, you're about a month behind on the news, aren't you?

 

[Pitbull]

Careful all this triggering will result in burst blood vessels within your cranial region which will probably at the very least cause you a headache.

Yea, it's pretty obvious that you're triggered. I'm having a ball seeing your meltdown

 

[Xarog]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/world/americas/honduras-migrant-caravan-voices.html

I'm not exactly sure why you expect me to take a propaganda piece as evidence they weren't paid.

 

[Unhappy438]

Yea, it's pretty obvious that you're triggered. I'm having a ball seeing your meltdown

Shame... Pitbull triggering intensifies. Enjoy your headache.

 

[Xarog]

Yea, it's pretty obvious that you're triggered. I'm having a ball seeing your meltdown

Unhappy is as unhappy does.

 

[Pitbull]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/world/americas/honduras-migrant-caravan-voices.html

So the exact same reason why so many apply for asylum and refugee status. But not in a caravan in excess of 4000 people?

No one is claiming they don't have legitimate reason for going. Them being organized in the amount of people they are and the fact that not everyone of those 4000 people will have the same story makes one wonder doesn't it. Either way, I have no issue with them standing at the border and applying the way they should. Jump the border and get mowed down... simple as that.

 

[Pitbull]

Shame... Pitbull triggering intensifies. Enjoy your headache.

More whining.

You fit the true definition of an NPC. One trick pony

 

[Cray]

I'm not exactly sure why you expect me to take a propaganda piece as evidence they weren't paid.

Propaganda piece huh? So all those testimonies where just made up? That journalist just ignored evidence of a conspiracy?

 

[Obronie]

You gave an opinion. Now you are quoting another opinion piece at me. Do you have any evidence that Manafort's guilty pleas have anything to do with Trump? Yes/No

Ok, Xarog you win - I will google it for you: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/

If he lied on the matter the Dems would already be using that lie to have him impeached. So this is blatantly incorrect.

Nope, you must understand due process - there is an commission investigating this - you know that one that Trump panics so much about. It is only because we are in the election cycle that the Mueller is quiet. So lets wait a bit more. If you are bored that you can continue with your Bengazi whining - maybe a 5th commission will help! LOL

 

[cerebus]

The caravan is a mob. A very large one, and with crowds/mobs that size, there is no one in charge. They just become this mindless thing. I really don't think anyone is leading this or directing it. The stories that are moving through it are also probably very different to reality.

What makes them a mob? Are they violent? Armed? It's a group of very hungry, very poor refugees. They are cannon fodder next to the US army.

The problem with this is when it is time to break things up, it may get violent, and a stampede could break out. Innocents are going to get hurt. Some NPOs will probably set up some shelters and tents to aid with the sick, with food distribution before the border. I wouldn't be surprised if a tent city pops up there, and Mexico has to deal with the mess.

And no matter which way this goes, Trump will receive criticism and condemnation. The only course of action for Trump is a firm one. The immigration debate is why the Dems are losing, and they will continue to lose until it is addressed properly.

This isn't the first migrant caravan from Central America. In April there was another, smaller caravan that ended up with around 1500 people. Trump did the same basic fearmongering performance, but in the end there was no violence, most of them got sent home where they could safely be raped and murdered away from troublesome news cameras, and a very small number made it into the US legally. They were processed.

The ONLY reason this is being whipped up into such a fervour now is because Trump has no real message left other than nationalism. He even openly embraced the term yesterday. He's mostly abandoned the economic populist progressivism he ran on during the 2016 election because it's obviously a farce.

 

[Xarog]

Ok, Xarog you win - I will google it for you: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/
There are plenty of right-wing never-Trumpers. What is this supposed to prove?

Nope, you must understand due process - there is an commission investigating this - you know that one that Trump panics so much about. It is only because we are in the election cycle that the Mueller is quiet. So lets wait a bit more. If you are bored that you can continue with your Bengazi whining - maybe a 5th commission will help! LOL

No. If they could demonstrate a lie, they would have enough to justify an impeachment process without having to contaminate any other part of the investigation. So frankly you are believing in fantasies. And that's fine, but then it's not going to go very well for you if you start trying to mock other people for believing in "conspiracy theories".

 

[konfab]

The ONLY reason this is being whipped up into such a fervour now is because Trump has no real message left other than nationalism. He even openly embraced the term yesterday. He's mostly abandoned the economic populist progressivism he ran on during the 2016 election because it's obviously a farce.

What do you mean by that?